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2020 CU football season POSTPONED until Nov 6th?

When you subject yourself to progressive governance (i.e. West Coast cities), failure is virtually inevitable, even for restarting PAC 12 football.
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When you subject yourself to progressive governance (i.e. West Coast cities), failure is virtually inevitable, even for restarting PAC 12 football.
Maybe take a look at which states generate the highest per capita GDP and pay the most in taxes and which states get the most federal dollars per capita. Hint: those progressive states sure do prop up a lot of less progressive state economies.

I’m beginning to be with Burrito, think before you post.

Mods can trim this to politics if it gets out of hand from here.
 


Yesterday, I read the last week's order from last week re: quarantine and it looks to have an exception for college athletics... I don't know if it is direct or implied, but for the quarantine of nuisance houses it says: you can go out to get food, medical appointments... and attend organized college athletics activities. That language is not in the order linked which has to do only with certain nuisance houses, however in section g(i) it has an exception for permitted CU activities, which football may fall into. I would have thought that there would be specific guidance re: College Athletics in the new order, in light of the previous order but it did not contain any. So I think unless there is additional guidance released, organized football probably clear from the health department order, but certainly the College President could shut it down or place restrictions. If it were shutdown, I would imagine a specific release from CU or the athletes impacted, as they cannot go eat at the training tables etc....

I like to post good news! We need some football!
 
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Actually, I'm sorry this is bad news. It is very confusing. In the FAQ's for the health order it says it prohibits intercollegiate sports practices, however the Order is only for the Nuisance Houses not the entire university including the dorms... There were a bunch of nuisance houses recently added-- most look to be fraternities or sororities. I'm not sure how many football players or college athletes, if any live in the Nuisance houses... We will have to see in the coming days, however with the additional testing for athletes, plus the lack of any known athletic breakouts-- they may or may not be in the clear.
 
can they legally prohibit gatherings within a specific age range?!?!?!

also, I figuratively can't believe that CU is going to fûck up football for the Pac12!?!?!?!
 
It seems unlikely that the city can dictate actions on university property. I could be wrong, though.
 
What are you talking about with the second point?
maybe I'm missing something, but I'm assuming that if all gathering of students are prohibited (including athletes), this would halt practice and training activities, which would delay CU's ability to start the season in five weeks.
 
maybe I'm missing something, but I'm assuming that if all gathering of students are prohibited (including athletes), this would halt practice and training activities, which would delay CU's ability to start the season in five weeks.

Even if true (which I do not believe it is), how does that **** up football for the conference?
 
It seems unlikely that the city can dictate actions on university property. I could be wrong, though.
You are correct. Being that the property is owned by the state, they effectively can do whatever they want. However, the University and the City have banged head to head so many times over the years, that the University goes out of their way to comply with City guidelines so as to "keep the peace". Basically, my interpretation is that they don't have to follow these rules, but they will.
 
can they legally prohibit gatherings within a specific age range?!?!?!

also, I figuratively can't believe that CU is going to fûck up football for the Pac12!?!?!?!

I'm not sure how a State or Federal judge would rule on it. Health, safety and welfare are plenary powers of the State/Health Department, however it does seem overbroad. However, it is narrowly tailored to certain identified nuisance properties. Sort of like an eatery order, where the health department closes down a certain eatery for health violations. It does have an exception, should someone need to work to buy food, but for athletes presuming persons from non-nuisance houses appear permitted to participate, it seems to put a huge burden on those athletes living in the nuisance houses (i.e.... they are playing sports which is the source of many scholarships). I suppose that they could move-out, which the order seems to permit but it is conflicting on that issue as well.
 
Even if true (which I do not believe it is), how does that **** up football for the conference?
again, maybe I'm behind on information, but I was of the understanding from posts ITT that the Pac is trying to start play on 31 Oct. If any member school is unable to do start on the same date, I'm labeling that "****ing up football for the conference".

which part do you not believe is true?
 
again, maybe I'm behind on information, but I was of the understanding from posts ITT that the Pac is trying to start play on 31 Oct. If any member school is unable to do start on the same date, I'm labeling that "****ing up football for the conference".

which part do you not believe is true?

Highly doubt all schools play on Halloween.

I think workouts/practices will continue.
 
I'm not sure how a State or Federal judge would rule on it. Health, safety and welfare are plenary powers of the State/Health Department, however it does seem overbroad. However, it is narrowly tailored to certain identified nuisance properties. Sort of like an eatery order, where the health department closes down a certain eatery for health violations. It does have an exception, should someone need to work to buy food, but for athletes presuming persons from non-nuisance houses appear permitted to participate, it seems to put a huge burden on those athletes living in the nuisance houses (i.e.... they are playing sports which is the source of many scholarships). I suppose that they could move-out, which the order seems to permit but it is conflicting on that issue as well.
where are you reading this is limited to "certain nuisance properties"? i'm looking at the full PHO and it clearly states

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Highly doubt all schools play on Halloween.

I think workouts/practices will continue.
i hope you're wrong on point 1 and right on point 2. however, the language seems rather absolute (see above post to Guy). under 'essential activities' it explicitly defines outdoor exercise as limited to one person socially distant from any others. the PHO also doesn't seem to leave any wiggle room by defining 'gathering':
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You are correct. Being that the property is owned by the state, they effectively can do whatever they want. However, the University and the City have banged head to head so many times over the years, that the University goes out of their way to comply with City guidelines so as to "keep the peace". Basically, my interpretation is that they don't have to follow these rules, but they will.
That is my understanding as well.
 
where are you reading this is limited to "certain nuisance properties"? i'm looking at the full PHO and it clearly states

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Although I'm sure the Health Department took steps to provide clarity, the Order is not written clearly. The FAQ makes it even more confusing. The Order itself makes the Stay at Home only for the Subject Properties in Exhibit A, which are the nuisance properties; and 90% of the prohibitions go to that. The Gathering provision seems to be separate, but if you read the order as a whole, I think the interpretation is that it is for the nuisance properties, not the whole City or County. If so, a ton of students that need to work to pay for school would be caught up in it--and someone will run to court and challenge it. What I sort of see is that the City/County passed this thing through this with the initial intention of dealing with nuisance properties but also sneaking in the gatherings such that it will be overbroad in scaring students. However, the meat of the Order is toward the nuisance houses... It may depend on how the Police interpret it. NYC is correct about the State Property comment--the City does not have much authority when it comes to on-campus activities.
 
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