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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025

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Chuck Neinas take on the current landscape of CFB. His takes:

1. B1G & SEC media rights will screw up everything.
2. There will be a middle class in CFB and it is obvious the Big 12, Pac-12, and ACC will be in it.
3. 12 team playoffs will happen.
4. The Big 12 will not fold and praised the additions of BYU, Cinncinnati, UCF, and Houston.
5. Nebraska & Missouri's moves questioned...should have stayed in the Big 12. Texas A&M departure weakened the Big 12. CU has zero relevance in this ordeal.
 
Big 12 has new commissioner in place. Wonder if he will let UT & OU leave after the Big 12 gets an extension or new media rights deal.

 

Chuck Neinas take on the current landscape of CFB. His takes:

1. B1G & SEC media rights will screw up everything.
2. There will be a middle class in CFB and it is obvious the Big 12, Pac-12, and ACC will be in it.
3. 12 team playoffs will happen.
4. The Big 12 will not fold and praised the additions of BYU, Cinncinnati, UCF, and Houston.
5. Nebraska & Missouri's moves questioned...should have stayed in the Big 12. Texas A&M departure weakened the Big 12. CU has zero relevance in this ordeal.
Neinas? I thought we fired him.
 

Chuck Neinas take on the current landscape of CFB. His takes:

1. B1G & SEC media rights will screw up everything.
2. There will be a middle class in CFB and it is obvious the Big 12, Pac-12, and ACC will be in it.
3. 12 team playoffs will happen.
4. The Big 12 will not fold and praised the additions of BYU, Cinncinnati, UCF, and Houston.
5. Nebraska & Missouri's moves questioned...should have stayed in the Big 12. Texas A&M departure weakened the Big 12. CU has zero relevance in this ordeal.
Ugh
 
ACC has to be in panic mode.

The conference may be gaining optimism given that ND isn't part of these reports, but I think they'll at risk to soon join the B1G (I always have been, this only increases the likelihood IMO). Priority #1 for Greensboro in circling the wagons has to be flipping ND to full membership. Chances of PSU moving are now lower than ever... I'd love to take WVU.

We'll see if the rumors of a handshake agreement between ND and the ACC over the 2020 football season amount to anything.
 
ACC has to be in panic mode.

The conference may be gaining optimism given that ND isn't part of these reports, but I think they'll at risk to soon join the B1G (I always have been, this only increases the likelihood IMO). Priority #1 for Greensboro in circling the wagons has to be flipping ND to full membership. Chances of PSU moving are now lower than ever... I'd love to take WVU.

We'll see if the rumors of a handshake agreement between ND and the ACC over the 2020 football season amount to anything.

The ACC has three schools who add something.
 
Basketball does not matter or you'd have to include their siamese twin UNC.
1. I was assuming your 3 were UNC, FSU and Miami. who are your three?
2. disagree basketball doesn't matter. it's not at the money level of football, but it does matter. the tourney generates $1b/year.
 
1. I was assuming your 3 were UNC, FSU and Miami. who are your three?
2. disagree basketball doesn't matter. it's not at the money level of football, but it does matter. the tourney generates $1b/year.

Dude, there's this sport called football, or gridiron or American football, it's immensely popular in this country called United States and generates an amount of money that neither of us can really imagine. In the ACC there's a school that's won six straight conference championships and has appeared in the most important game in this sport called football 4 times recently, winning two. Who could I be referring to? And how mad would I have to be to leave them out when I believe this is just about solely driven by football?
 
Dude, there's this sport called football, or gridiron or American football, it's immensely popular in this country called United States and generates an amount of money that neither of us can really imagine. In the ACC there's a school that's won six straight conference championships and has appeared in the most important game in this sport called football 4 times recently, winning two. Who could I be referring to? And how mad would I have to be to leave them out when I believe this is just about solely driven by football?
Wake Forest?
 
Clemson. Yeah. He’s talking about Clemson.
I think Clemson is overvalued by a lot of people. They only add value to the SEC when they're on their recent run. On average, they may be less valuable than a program like West Virginia which at least gets them into a new geography.
 
I think Clemson is overvalued by a lot of people. They only add value to the SEC when they're on their recent run. On average, they may be less valuable than a program like West Virginia which at least gets them into a new geography.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but it was pretty obvious to me what Jens was referring to.
 
It's clear Texas, Oklahoma, and USC have been thinking of bolting their conferences for some time. I'm kinda surprised they did not try to coordinate a top-tier exodus of PAC12-Big12 schools, and maybe loop in Notre Dame. Imagine a conference with those heavyweights at the top. CU of course still manages to get left out.
 
It's clear Texas, Oklahoma, and USC have been thinking of bolting their conferences for some time. I'm kinda surprised they did not try to coordinate a top-tier exodus of PAC12-Big12 schools, and maybe loop in Notre Dame. Imagine a conference with those heavyweights at the top. CU of course still manages to get left out.
They give zero fvcks about anyone else. Texas brought Oklahoma to maintain its key rivalry through a school that didn't hurt its wallet & probably helped. UCLA was the same for USC. Beyond that, it wasn't in their interest to pull anyone else.
 
They give zero fvcks about anyone else. Texas brought Oklahoma to maintain its key rivalry through a school that didn't hurt its wallet & probably helped. UCLA was the same for USC. Beyond that, it wasn't in their interest to pull anyone else.
Agreed, but they must know they will be nothing but a middling team lost in the SEC. Seems they could have attempted to engineer a scenario where they were a top dog calling the shots.
 
Agreed, but they must know they will be nothing but a middling team lost in the SEC. Seems they could have attempted to engineer a scenario where they were a top dog calling the shots.
Maybe UCLA. USC believes they can and should be the clear top dog among any group of college programs. That's their expectation.
 
I could see a conference with no blue bloods like a Big 12/Pac 12 merger that has a similar level of competitive balance and parity and becomes a highly entertaining brand as a tier 2 conference.
What amount of actual money could this conference/league actually generate per school? Might be a nice package for Hulu or Netflix or Paramount?
 
I could see a conference with no blue bloods like a Big 12/Pac 12 merger that has a similar level of competitive balance and parity and becomes a highly entertaining brand as a tier 2 conference.

I’m starting to think that getting left out of the B1G or SEC could be great for CU at this point. Getting accepted into the B1G is just another fresh band-aid when it really needs to be ripped off. I don’t see the CU administration changing if the B1G or even SEC takes the Buffs in. The old tired guys at the top would be forced out and younger new blood would come in and change the culture from the top to the bottom at CU when it comes to athletics.

Watching FCS football showed me that football can be enjoyable at lower levels. Montana made a decision back in the 1950’s that they couldn’t compete at the highest level in the PCC while their rival Idaho stuck around until the PCC disbanded. Both ended up in the Big Sky Conference and then was joined by Boise State. Idaho followed Boise State back to D1 football with the results they had in the PCC and then dropped back down to FCS. Montana has done great ever since as a consistent Top 25 FCS program. Without that success, would prospective students find Missoula on a map?

Going to the B1G & SEC is only going to maintain the sucky status quo that CU is in. Getting left out will lead to systemic changes that are long overdue. CU will do well overall athletically while being part of an entertaining conference/level. Entertaining football is not exclusive to FBS football and can be had at FCS and even D2 football.

This doesn’t mean we should automatically reject a B1G invite but there is an upside to getting left out.
 
Question to everyone: Who benefits from increased AD revenue? I mean when CU went from $10 million to $25 million, where was it spent? Seems to me that CU added no sports, and it largely went into two areas, coaching salaries and facilities. Is that correct?
 
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