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Official 2022 Fall Camp Thread

I think it’s entirely possible, and maybe even likely, that while Sanford’s track record is essentially mediocrity, he elevates the worst FBS offense from last year, to a serviceable unit in 2022.

I think fans are actually underestimating just how awful the offensive coordination, play calling, QB coaching and OL coaching were last year. I think this could be a rare circumstance where there is pretty large addition by subtraction.
CU had the worst OC and Oline coach in all of P5 football in 2021 and it wasn't even close
 
It is kind of a shame we have heard all the BS coach excuses so many times, we have become expert in parroting them.
That wasn't even a coach speak. It was one we made up on AllBuffs to explain our crappy performances against early season opponents like Northern Colorado.
 
Losing all our pass rushers sucks. Fortunately, we didn’t have any pass rushers last year.
Yeah, I am not sure I'd call Landman or Wells above average pass rushers.

Wells was great at penetrating and getting TFL, but for some reason, he never really racked up the sacks. He caused a lot of havoc in the backfield and they will miss that, but from a pure pass rushing ability, that was not him
 
That wasn't even a coach speak. It was one we made up on AllBuffs to explain our crappy performances against early season opponents like Northern Colorado.
Yeah, that is true, I was responding to yours and Les Grossman's post. I'll try to do better next time.
 
Yeah, I am not sure I'd call Landman or Wells above average pass rushers.

Wells was great at penetrating and getting TFL, but for some reason, he never really racked up the sacks. He caused a lot of havoc in the backfield and they will miss that, but from a pure pass rushing ability, that was not him
I was going to say, we didn’t have any pass rushers last year. Wells was great for TFLs but he wasn’t a pass rusher, and Mustafa was a major disappointment when he finally played
 
Yeah, I am not sure I'd call Landman or Wells above average pass rushers.

Wells was great at penetrating and getting TFL, but for some reason, he never really racked up the sacks. He caused a lot of havoc in the backfield and they will miss that, but from a pure pass rushing ability, that was not him
Man I love your posts. I am not being snarky when I say that, but Wells had 5.5 of the 13 sacks CU managed to corral last year. I get he isn't the second coming of Lawrence Taylor, but he was the only guy who got to the QB more than once every six games. BTW, that guy, the next best who averaged a sack every six games is gone too. Mustafa Johnson was the second best in the sack category, racking up two, count 'em, sacks.

So, when you downplay the loss of the anemic pass rush as no biggie, I wonder who you think is going to do better. Couple that with a back seven that lost practically every pass defender of note, I am deeply concerned. At least the first game is against an Air Raid squad, so CU definitely has the advantage there.:rolleyes:
 

Read an article where it was stated that the offense is starting from scratch under Sanford. I hope that means HCKD burned the offense playbook from last season and Sanford designs the offense to take advantage of the strengths of the players on offense.

Feeling a bit of optimism but that usually happens at this point of the year.
But I hope he still pokes his head into meetings.
 
Man I love your posts. I am not being snarky when I say that, but Wells had 5.5 of the 13 sacks CU managed to corral last year. I get he isn't the second coming of Lawrence Taylor, but he was the only guy who got to the QB more than once every six games. BTW, that guy, the next best who averaged a sack every six games is gone too. Mustafa Johnson was the second best in the sack category, racking up two, count 'em, sacks.

So, when you downplay the loss of the anemic pass rush as no biggie, I wonder who you think is going to do better. Couple that with a back seven that lost practically every pass defender of note, I am deeply concerned. At least the first game is against an Air Raid squad, so CU definitely has the advantage there.:rolleyes:
This is like saying, Brendan Lewis threw 100% of the passing TDs last year, so how could anyone else be better than him.
 
No, I am asking who is going to fill their shoes. Different question. Lewis is here and Wells and MJ aren't. Try again.
Guy Thomas, Alvin Williams, Terrance Lang, Chance Main.

Wells and Mustafa had a combined 7.5 sacks last year. Not exactly Von Miller-esque. I’m highly confident that kind of production can be replaced by two of the above mentioned players
 
Man I love your posts. I am not being snarky when I say that, but Wells had 5.5 of the 13 sacks CU managed to corral last year. I get he isn't the second coming of Lawrence Taylor, but he was the only guy who got to the QB more than once every six games. BTW, that guy, the next best who averaged a sack every six games is gone too. Mustafa Johnson was the second best in the sack category, racking up two, count 'em, sacks.

So, when you downplay the loss of the anemic pass rush as no biggie, I wonder who you think is going to do better. Couple that with a back seven that lost practically every pass defender of note, I am deeply concerned. At least the first game is against an Air Raid squad, so CU definitely has the advantage there.:rolleyes:
No worries, I actually appreciate some actual discussion rather than the doom and gloom that provides absolutely no discussion.

I said Wells and Landman weren't above average pass rushers. Which is true, and the stats will back that up. Wells will be missed immensely, that much I know, but I don't think anyone considered him a great pass rusher.

Can Thomas and Lang replace that type of production and possibly be even better? Yes, I think they could, but we will see. Thomas was hurt most of last year and so was Lang. I also think Lang has been playing out of position in the 3-4 and will benefit from this change.

I don't have any grand illusion that this team is going to be good and have been clear with that, fyi.
 
Our team is not as bad as it looked last season.

That was historically bad coaching on the offensive side.

So I do think there's a certainty that we will be better.

What I don't know is whether the combination of competent OL coaching & playcalling along with an S&C program I believe in finally showing significant improvement is enough to make this an enjoyable & encouraging season. I'm very skeptical, but do have a glimmer of hope.
I can’t get past the fact that four of the biggest playmakers on offense and two of the best players in the defensive backfield just up and transferred. The coaching staff *might* be better, the talent level has certainly taken a step backwards.
 
Phil Steele has a metric with a pretty great track record of looking at conference YPG +/- versus win record the next year. Anyway, it projects that our win record will drop NY. Only one team in the country projects worse than us.

 
No worries, I actually appreciate some actual discussion rather than the doom and gloom that provides absolutely no discussion.

I said Wells and Landman weren't above average pass rushers. Which is true, and the stats will back that up. Wells will be missed immensely, that much I know, but I don't think anyone considered him a great pass rusher.

Can Thomas and Lang replace that type of production and possibly be even better? Yes, I think they could, but we will see. Thomas was hurt most of last year and so was Lang. I also think Lang has been playing out of position in the 3-4 and will benefit from this change.

I don't have any grand illusion that this team is going to be good and have been clear with that, fyi.
I hear you. I just look at the D and OL and panic somewhat.
 
Better, I give you a C- because it is more of a prediction than an analogy, but keep trying, you are doing better with every post.
As a CU fan, he's entitled to use the 'youthful poster' excuse every year despite this being his 7th year on AllBuffs.
 
Guy Thomas, Alvin Williams, Terrance Lang, Chance Main.

Wells and Mustafa had a combined 7.5 sacks last year. Not exactly Von Miller-esque. I’m highly confident that kind of production can be replaced by two of the above mentioned players
I think Thomas has a great deal of potential. Lang is a solid DL but pass rush is not something he has excelled at, unfortunately. A. Williams? Long shot. Chance Main? Longer shot and a prayer.
 
That AFA loss was baaad. Team was lackluster from the start and the secondary couldn't stop AFA's passing attack. Not AFA's sneaky play action passing attack, they couldn't stop AFA's 3rd and long passing attack. What a turd of a game.
And if we hadnt botched an extra point, we still win.
 
I think Thomas has a great deal of potential. Lang is a solid DL but pass rush is not something he has excelled at, unfortunately. A. Williams? Long shot. Chance Main? Longer shot and a prayer.
Again, it’s 7.5 sacks of production for two players. That’s horrible. Mustafa wasn’t good last season, Lang is a much better player. Alvin Williams was one of the better recruits of Tucker’s class. He’s a high potential player. Main might not be great, but again, it’s 7.5 sacks. We aren’t replacing massive production there.
 
Guy Thomas, Alvin Williams, Terrance Lang, Chance Main.

Wells and Mustafa had a combined 7.5 sacks last year. Not exactly Von Miller-esque. I’m highly confident that kind of production can be replaced by two of the above mentioned players
Wrong thread I know, but I'm gonna go ahead and call my shot on Chance Main being an absolute bust.
 
Wrong thread I know, but I'm gonna go ahead and call my shot on Chance Main being an absolute bust.
A bust relative to what? He was a 5th year grad transfer from Incarnate Word who missed the entire 2021 season due to injury. Pretty sure he was brought in to provide some depth to the DL group.
 
I do not see a defense which can either generate a consistent pass rush or force turnovers. Not a recipe for success with questionable depth.
 
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