That’s not background noise for this program right now, though. Replacing 3 marginal players with 3 good ones each year is a big deal for CU.
Not if a coach has an actual board to replace those casualties, i.e, the transfer portal.
That’s not background noise for this program right now, though. Replacing 3 marginal players with 3 good ones each year is a big deal for CU.
I’m not giving a ton of credence to that stuff or using it as an excuse and I agree that paying for better coaches is the way to get better. Because CU seemingly isn’t willing to do that, I’m just saying that they can’t afford to run a program as clean as others if they want to win.My whole point is paying money for assistants and support is the way to do it.
Or we can continue exaggerating a bunch of unsubstantiated things about Mel Tucker.
15 years ago is when we decided that bad press was worse than bad football so I do see it as relevant. We stunk compared to our peers long before moving to the PAC 12.I don't think 15 years ago is particularly relevant.
A more apt comparison is the first five years in Pac-12 versus the last five years.
15 years ago is when we decided that bad press was worse than bad football so I do see it as relevant. We stunk compared to our peers long before moving to the PAC 12.
It’s the only way to do it, legally.My whole point is paying money for assistants and support is the way to do it.
Or we can continue exaggerating a bunch of unsubstantiated things about Mel Tucker.
Exactly, and trying to be a squeaky clean program who recruits solid character players to avoid embarrassing the CU administration seems like the one constant (with the exception of 1 season after which we quickly ditched those efforts).A different conference, several head coaches, a different AD, a different President, and major facility upgrades are really the only things different.
Exactly, and trying to be a squeaky clean program who recruits solid character players to avoid embarrassing the CU administration seems like the one constant (with the exception of 1 season after which we quickly ditched those efforts).
I’m confused what you think the solution here is - you’ve said pay more for assistants which I think pretty much everyone agrees with, but where does that money come from? We’re either paying all we can afford which isn’t easily solvable or we’re being deliberately thrifty with the budget which I can’t imagine RG or any AD would stand for. Which is it?
“The soft bigotry of low expectations,” applies here.Also, simply suggesting CU shouldn’t have “pretty girls” as employees of the recruiting operation or hosts insinuates that sex is the only function they bring, which is obviously really ****ing stupid.
I don’t know, ask Tad.My point is upping assistant pay and support staff is just about the only tangible solution being offered in this thread.
Being less "squeaky clean" means what exactly? "Toeing the line" in recruiting means what exactly?
I don’t know, ask Tad.
Pay more isn’t a solution if there isn’t money to do it.
What’s going to change a year from now?It may be a solution a year from now. Being less "squeaky clean" will still mean nothing.
What’s going to change a year from now?
And what was Tucker doing that CU seems to be running the opposite direction from now?
Why didn’t KD negotiate for a bigger pool? Or did he?I honestly don’t understand how CU is so poor that they are literally within the bottom 10 P5 programs or so in assistant salary pool. How in the **** can Rick George make Karl Dorrell the highest paid HC in CU history and at the same time keep the AC pool stays the same?
We hired this staff pre-COVID, why should anyone believe the assistant pool is going up next year?Post-COVID budget and assistant coaching contracts will be up for renewal.
We hired this staff pre-COVID, why should anyone believe the assistant pool is going up next year?
Maybe there’s a little more money for recruiting operations that were shut down due to COVID but unless we found new sources of revenue somewhere, that just takes us back to pre-COVID levels where we still were bad relative to peers.
The DC hire will be very telling in all thisWe were also hiring in late February.
For all we know, the next DC is going to be making more than Summers did.
And "the low spark of high heeled boys."“The soft bigotry of low expectations,” applies here.
Summers was not a late February hire really.We were also hiring in late February.
For all we know, the next DC is going to be making more than Summers did.
The solution for CU feels straightforward:
- increase the average tenure of a HC to > 3 years
- have a head coach that values recruiting but doesn’t take shortcuts
- focus on high 3 star players, if we target 4 stars make it very specific with a bias towards OL, DL, and QB
- establish a team identity and strong culture to limit attrition
- win 6-8 games a year
KD feels like a good fit for the above at the current moment
CU is not currently a good job but as Duff correctly states above there aren't a lot of great jobs out there.My whole point is paying money for assistants and support is the way to do it.
Or we can continue exaggerating a bunch of unsubstantiated things about Mel Tucker.
how far are we from being UW in terms of resources? That seems like the place we should be trying to emulate as much as possible unless they're miles away in terms of resources
I never understood why schools like Utah or Wyoming were so successful, but we're not... apart from totally dropping the ball with some coaching hires/scandals... why aren't we on their level?
I never understood why schools like Utah or Wyoming were so successful, but we're not... apart from totally dropping the ball with some coaching hires/scandals... why aren't we on their level?
**** it, CU. Is now a basketball school now. Duke of football. Poor all resources into what Tad is doing.
I am not sure Football is worth it at CU anymore. The AD has quit on this program when they allow a coach to talk about 2 stars and what he can do with the. This staff is what they are and that is not a legit P5 staff.
A basketball ball school that hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in over 50 years