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2022 Transfer Portal

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slider said:
Interesting Chandler Dorrell is following two RB transfers
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Missed out on Ott and that other dude, so it makes sense, but it’s still a really crowded room and if they are seriously intent on forcing Fontenot and Joe Davis as part of the rotation, I’m not sure why any transfer with options would come here.

Hopefully that means they expect some attrition there
 
Big Jim said:
Dorrell’s signings are at the level of MM’s best classes and the 2022 coaching staff is much better than 2021 and any MM ever had. Top it off with CU still plays in the Pac-12 and there are only three conference teams CU cannot beat: USC, UU and UO. The QB and OL will be better in 2022 than 2021. There are only three players that are catastrophic losses and all are on defense: Landman, Gonzalez and Wells even though Wells was misused and rendered relatively ineffective in 2021. Given how Chev used Rice in 2021 the loss of Rice isn’t bad relative to last season.

Games that CU is capable of in 2022:

TCU - 1st game by new TCU coaching staff on the road in Boulder.
@AFA - these types of teams are unique but with inferior athletes
@ U of M - they lost their OC that punished CU in 2021 ( ha ha 🙃)
UCLA - losing DTR, their star WR and probably TE. Possibly a new HC.
@U of A - massive **** show program till proven otherwise. Recruiting has improved but overall team talent is awful.
Cal - home game against a middling program.
@OSU - middling program
ASU - program is crumbling and their vaunted DC is NFL bound
@UW - who knows what is going on up their and they just brought in s fully losded G5 coaching staff.

Worst case: Three wins
Best case: Six wins
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This post just shows you don't know much of anything about teams that aren't CU. Let's bet head to head on these games next year. How bout it?
 
Big Jim said:
Sorry to disrupt the soccer hooligan fight but I agree that a CBA might be the only way to ultimately keep college football from killing itself.
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The NFL is one entity for a players union to negotiate with. College is multiple conferences and a gutless NCAA. Once the players start to get paid by the schools a CBA becomes a thing.
 
MiamiBuffs said:
The NFL is one entity for a players union to negotiate with. College is multiple conferences and a gutless NCAA. Once the players start to get paid by the schools a CBA becomes a thing.
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It wouldn't take a whole lot. Say tuition, room, board, personal training, tutoring, health care, life insurance and even add a moderate cash stipend to the pot is "compensation" for the work being done on the field is "getting paid by the schools," and viola, you can get a CBA (presuming the players want to unionize).

Once you're operating under the idea of negotiating a CBA with a recognized players' union, all at once transfer rules, scholarship/stipend limits, etc all become much easier to negotiate and actually enforce; even NIL money can be more stringently regulated within the legal structure of a CBA.

Yes, players will get more of the pie, and coaches' salaries will probably flatten out some, but those are probably good things.

Right now, any limit on player transfers is kind of hard to justify - why shouldn't they be able to transfer just as easily as any other student on campus? But, in the context of a CBA, where the players collectively agree to the limits on their ability to transfer in exchange for some other benefit (guaranteed 4 years?, significant injury insurance?, long term health insurance?, etc) it becomes a whole lot easier to justify (and again, enforce) some restrictions on transfers.
 
skibum said:
It wouldn't take a whole lot. Say tuition, room, board, personal training, tutoring, health care, life insurance and even add a moderate cash stipend to the pot is "compensation" for the work being done on the field is "getting paid by the schools," and viola, you can get a CBA (presuming the players want to unionize).

Once you're operating under the idea of negotiating a CBA with a recognized players' union, all at once transfer rules, scholarship/stipend limits, etc all become much easier to negotiate and actually enforce; even NIL money can be more stringently regulated within the legal structure of a CBA.

Yes, players will get more of the pie, and coaches' salaries will probably flatten out some, but those are probably good things.

Right now, any limit on player transfers is kind of hard to justify - why shouldn't they be able to transfer just as easily as any other student on campus? But, in the context of a CBA, where the players collectively agree to the limits on their ability to transfer in exchange for some other benefit (guaranteed 4 years?, significant injury insurance?, long term health insurance?, etc) it becomes a whole lot easier to justify (and again, enforce) some restrictions on transfers.
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I believe some of what you describe in this last paragraph were already in place. A full scholarship included room/board, health insurance etc, a cash allowance etc. The NCAA had rules/restrictions of what could and could not be provided and it was uniform across the board. However poorly enforced.

Was it simply the signing of an actual CBA legal thing that differentiates this (other than some slight benefit changes you mentioned - which I don't think are the real issue)? Or Perhaps it's that the players had no input, but with a union, they'd be part of the rule setting, and this makes such an agreement enforceable?
 
buffaholic said:
I believe some of what you describe in this last paragraph were already in place. A full scholarship included room/board, health insurance etc, a cash allowance etc. The NCAA had rules/restrictions of what could and could not be provided and it was uniform across the board. However poorly enforced.

Was it simply the signing of an actual CBA legal thing that differentiates this (other than some slight benefit changes you mentioned - which I don't think are the real issue)? Or Perhaps it's that the players had no input, but with a union, they'd be part of the rule setting, and this makes such an agreement enforceable?
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Two things: because the players would actually have a real voice in the rule setting, the rules themselves would carry more moral weight. It's an odd thing to say, but it's true.

In terms of enforceability, rules with greater moral weight have a greater tendency to be followed in the first place, but more importantly: there's no longer an "us" (schools and players) vs "them" (ncaa rule goons with zero moral authority at all). There's a contract that everyone agreed to, and it is likely to include greater enforcement mechanisms (if, for no other reason, than you'll likely have multiple enforcement agents (one of them being the players' association) so the likelihood of any individual person or school willingly cooperating with at least one of them is much greater).
 
Gonzo and Rice (Perry to a far lesser degree, Clayton too) are humbling losses but the others are not.

I believe CU is attractive to a lot of transfer candidates and we can make out okay net net. Seeing some offers go out is a start.
 
ebeyg said:
Gonzo and Rice (Perry to a far lesser degree, Clayton too) are humbling losses but the others are not.

I believe CU is attractive to a lot of transfer candidates and we can make out okay net net. Seeing some offers go out is a start.
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Rice and Gonzo will be almost impossible to replace as far as talent. Otherwise, CU can most certainly upgrade in talent in all the other positions.
 
The Alabaster Yak said:
Missed out on Ott and that other dude, so it makes sense, but it’s still a really crowded room and if they are seriously intent on forcing Fontenot and Joe Davis as part of the rotation, I’m not sure why any transfer with options would come here.

Hopefully that means they expect some attrition there
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With the run heavy offense we're going to run, I believe we're quite thin at RB. Our best back is too small for the load given the quality of the OL and Fontenot is perfectly average in ability. Smith, Davis, and Stacks are 3rd, 4th, and 5th string for a reason. I suppose we could go with the 3 man rotation but I would be surprised if injuries don't force us into our 4th and 5th option by mid-season.
 
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