So which player left on the roster would start for an average P5 program?
Shroud, B Lewis, I Lewis, B Russell, MLC , Penry, Barnes, Lamb Guy Thomas, Sami and LangSo which player left on the roster would start for an average P5 program?
You seem to confuse “better” with “will beat Alabama.”Hell, you ARE LittleBang. 1% better of mediocre at best is still mediocre. Just add 2 better OL? How's that going?
Don’t forget getting an OC/QB coach who’s been disastrous for his last three QBsLol- how panicked would you be if you were that dude.
he transferred to this program when it was coming off an Alamo Bowl appearance and looked to have a ton of talent at the skill positions. Then he gets injured, sits out a year, and now has to battle the incumbent for the starting position on an offense that is going to be extremely young. To make matters worse, the offense lost not only the leading rusher, but only returns 3 players who had *any* rushing yards (one of whom is the incumbent QB) and loses 2 of the top 4 pass catchers.
I don't think the average fan understands how much the highlighted above point effects WR play. A QB who not only understands the offense, but the how and why of the passing scheme and gets the ball there where and when it should be delivered, is invaluable to a WRs game and success. We don't really have that on the roster anymore.This team is going to be a disaster even if things go our way. Most talented players leaving, years of failed HS recruiting, getting consistently beat for transfers.
OL is young and lacks talent, DL not young but lacks talent. Other than Sami which defensive lineman do we have who has shown that he can consistently or even frequently beat his man one on one. We get no pressure on the passer without committing blitzers which then leaves a young LB corps and DB group that is thin and lacking outstanding players under added pressure.
And with BRice even if he is the #3 WR or even #4 at USC he is going to get more and better opportunities than he would here.
Riley and his staff have populated the NFL with WRs from Oklahoma, some 1st rounders others later in the draft but either way guys who have stuck and had success.
Based on what we have seen he will get better coaching at USC. Playing in an offense with a competent OL and QB means he will be able run the full range of routes instead of the slants and screens the CU offense was forced to run by failure to protect the passer.
It also makes a big deal that he will be working in practice against a better level of DBs.
Rewind pls. I don’t see all them starting for Oregon St or Wazzu.Shroud, B Lewis, I Lewis, B Russell, MLC , Penry, Barnes, Lamb Guy Thomas, Sami and Lang
No, you confuse better with actually being better. 1% better doesn't do us a damn bit of good next year.You seem to confuse “better” with “will beat Alabama.”
Lincoln Riley as the playcaller changes things entirely.Will be interesting to see how he does at USC. USC has legit WR talent, but so does BR. This is not a KD Nixon situation, but he most certainly won't be the show. I think this is potentially a short-term win, but not sure a long term win. USC is a great place for NIL for the pure fact he will be rubbing elbows with the right people if football doesn't work out.
I'd like for you to pull starting lineups for each "average" P5 program and go position by position and do comparative analysis' so we can determine the accuracy. TIARewind pls. I don’t see all them starting for Oregon St or Wazzu.
To that point, if say Riley had somehow found his way to Boulder in the off season, every person on this board would be losing their damn minds projecting Rice would have 60 catches, 1,000 yards and 10 TDs next year.Lincoln Riley as the playcaller changes things entirely.
CU was 4 - 8 last season and then the NCAA thought it was a great idea to allow CU conference rivals to tap up and pick off our best players with financial incentives. The players don't even have to seat out a year. CU final roster is not set.. I cant really s prediction if I don't have all of the data. But I do like the additions in the secondary, QB, WR and linebacker. The 2021 class was a success with several guys playing early and looking good. Hopefully we get the same production from the 2033 class. The key io the season is the OL and DL play. 6-6 would be a successful season for me.
Since you like to do cherry pick arguments, please explain Matt CasselActually NFL scouts downgrade players that are on loaded teams unless you get insane production at skills positions like WR. So if B Rice doesn't get huge production his draft stock will slip. They are more lenient to players on bad teams. B Rice may have made a mistake if he doesn't get playing time. Young players do need to play to get better.
Not a bad question. I am pretty sure he was the guy trashing the team on Reddit.Wonder if Lytle pushed out? I just don’t see him helping us. There’s transfers from about anywhere with better value. Sadly.
CorrectNot a bad question. I am pretty sure he was the guy trashing the team on Reddit.
I didn't read the question to limit it to Wazzu or Ore. St., or even the P12, just average P5 team , of which there would be about 30-35 to choose from, so yeah, I think those 11 would have a shot at starting at a Duke, GT, Cal, Ill, Rutgers, Maryland, WVa, Syracuse type program. CU is not completely devoid of talent. They have some players who could be the "meat" of a solid CFB roster. CU just does not have nearly enough of them. They are devoid of game changers entirely. The two they had, Gonzo and Rice are gone. I am as critical as anyone of the systemic failure to recruit at a level necessary to compete in the P12, but to say they have nobody is an overstatement. Do you think anybody on my list could start at an average P5 school?Rewind pls. I don’t see all them starting for Oregon St or Wazzu.
CU was 4 - 8 last season and then the NCAA thought it was a great idea to allow CU conference rivals to tap up and pick off our best players with financial incentives. The players don't even have to seat out a year. CU final roster is not set.. I cant really s prediction if I don't have all of the data. But I do like the additions in the secondary, QB, WR and linebacker. The 2021 class was a success with several guys playing early and looking good. Hopefully we get the same production from the 2033 class. The key io the season is the OL and DL play. 6-6 would be a successful season for me.
I have to agree with BB2 on this. I know we all get wound up. I certainly do, and that fact has been appropriately pointed out when it happens. However, ad hominem attacks are never a good idea. I try to remind myself regularly how little all of this means in the grand scheme of things, certainly in the grand scheme of the football program, which appears to trundle along its own path no matter what I say or think. I often fail to comprehend that reality fully.If you cant have a conversation without insuling the other person, then please skip over my posts, don't respond. My ignore list is extensive. I just added you.
It’s just a shame that there was absolutely no way for CU to see NIL coming and that CU is the only school impacted by it. It’s totally not fair.CU was 4 - 8 last season and then the NCAA thought it was a great idea to allow CU conference rivals to tap up and pick off our best players with financial incentives. The players don't even have to seat out a year. CU final roster is not set.. I cant really make a prediction if I don't have all of the data. But I do like the additions in the secondary, QB, WR and linebacker. The 2021 class was a success with several guys playing early and looking good. Hopefully we get the same production from the 2022 class. The key io the season is the OL and DL play. 6-6 would be a successful season for me.
Keep in mind, CU is nowhere close to an average P5 program. Bottom quartile and falling.Shroud, B Lewis, I Lewis, B Russell, MLC , Penry, Barnes, Lamb Guy Thomas, Sami and Lang
RG and KD would probably have to google "SCOTUS" to see what it stood for. They might not follow regular news.....It’s just a shame that there was absolutely no way for CU to see NIL coming and that CU is the only school impacted by it. It’s totally not fair.
So.... Uhhmm. Yeah.Probably not perfect, but fairly accurate and up to date.
RT
Fillip (Jr)
Lichtenhan (So)
Reznik (RS Fr/Walk on)
RG
Roddick (Jr)
Anderson (RS Fr)
Edwards (Fr)
Dempsey (RS Fr/Walk on)
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Fenske (So)
Johnson (So)
Wells (Fr)
LG
Jynes (Jr)
Amaya (RS Fr)
Deitchman (Jr/Walk on)
LT
Wiley (So)
Seavall (RS Fr/Walk on)
Gray (Fr)
OL a weakness, just not a y/y weakness. Therefore there a plenty of competitive games on schedule again in 2022.So.... Uhhmm. Yeah.
2022 is going to be epically awful. No coaching improvement is going to turn that OL roster into anything. Apologists will fall over themselves with “...but Transfer Portal!...” Ok, sure.
There’s one thing we can count on. There will be five players in uniform with jersey numbers in the 60s and 70s that trot out as linemen for the first offensive sequence against TCU. Yep, that’ll happen. It will be the highlight of the season for the group. It’ll go downhill quickly from there.
OL a weakness, just not a y/y weakness. Therefore there a plenty of competitive games on schedule again in 2022.
Believe it, Bliff. We’ll win 2-5 out of TCU, AFA, UCLA, Zona, Cal, OSU and ASU. Get fired up!
And UW. Break up the Buffs!Believe it, Bliff. We’ll win 2-5 out of TCU, AFA, UCLA, Zona, Cal, OSU and ASU. Get fired up!
It'll certainly be a test case for "how much does coaching matter".Believe it, Bliff. We’ll win 2-5 out of TCU, AFA, UCLA, Zona, Cal, OSU and ASU. Get fired up!