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Signed to other '25 FL IOL Michael Carroll

Why are you just making up valuations of transfers? A proven stud transfer on the OL is going to cost far more than $400k.

I imagine someone like Benson and Mayers cost CU $400k this year.
Not really. Seaton was the #1 OL recruit in the country, and CU paid him $700,000. The price of business this year is a little higher, but not dramatically so.
 
Not is he is going to play the money game and exceed a certain budget point, gotta stick to a budget and are we going to have a line that has 3 freshman and 2 sophomores?
If they are elite freshman and Sophomores, yes. If we had an OL full of Jordan Seaton’s this year, we’d be elite
I don't know that it will work out like that. We have some guys we brought in this year in the portal who will almost certainly figure.

That said as much as we want to put our past behind us we are still a building team. We very likely will be starting at least a couple guys next year who on a more mature roster would be given time in the depth chart to develop.

Seaton is elite. He would have gotten playing time at most schools in the country. Not necessarily day one starter but would have gotten snaps.

Fully expect that with another year now to work S&C, to spend on film with position coaches and work on the fine points of technique with former pro bowler Loadholt he will contend for AA recognition next year.

Cleveland should make an even bigger step. This season he is nowhere near as physically mature as Seaton was. Put him in the weight room and we likely see a different player next year.

It is a huge factor in our recruiting though that we can honestly tell guys that regardless of position if they come in and earn it they will play.
 
Why are you just making up valuations of transfers? A proven stud transfer on the OL is going to cost far more than $400k.

I imagine someone like Benson and Mayers cost CU $400k this year.
Take $20 Million and spend it on a roster of 80 guys and tell me how even your IOL are worth more than $400k to $500k max
 
Phil will continue to fund them after he leaves this earth.
Yes, but that's different than having the billionaire fan personally saying his team is absolutely not losing a coach or player over money.
 
Take $20 Million and spend it on a roster of 80 guys and tell me how even your IOL are worth more than $400k to $500k max
Not every player on the roster is getting paid. If they are, some are getting scraps.

That 20 mil doesn't even take into account NIL deals
 
Because 80 guys aren’t getting paid
Everyone is getting something and it spends money way too fast
The NFL has about a $250 Million CAP
Let's give College a $25 Million CAP
So that is easy 1/10th cap number conversion
Average Guard in the NFL Makes about $5 Million, so pay the college equivalent $500k
If the market is just going to go wild, so be it, pay whatever you want, but there will be very good proven transfer Guards that we can get for $500k and likely be very happy with
 
Because 80 guys aren’t getting paid
Everyone is getting something and it spends money way too fast
The NFL has about a $250 Million CAP
Let's give College a $25 Million CAP
So that is easy 1/10th cap number conversion
Average Guard in the NFL Makes about $5 Million, so pay the college equivalent $500k
If the market is just going to go wild, so be it, pay whatever you want, but there will be very good proven transfer Guards that we can get for $500k and likely be very happy with
Similar to the NFL the distibution on money is far from equal. Very common for an NFL team to have >25% of it's salary cap wrapped up in 3-5 players and the majority of the players within 10% of the league minimums.

NIL is the same deal. Star QB make much more than a star OG but that star OG makes multiple times more than the backup LB who was a late addition to the recruiting class.
 
Everyone is getting something and it spends money way too fast
The NFL has about a $250 Million CAP
Let's give College a $25 Million CAP
So that is easy 1/10th cap number conversion
Average Guard in the NFL Makes about $5 Million, so pay the college equivalent $500k
If the market is just going to go wild, so be it, pay whatever you want, but there will be very good proven transfer Guards that we can get for $500k and likely be very happy with
College isn’t getting collective bargaining anytime soon.
 
Similar to the NFL the distibution on money is far from equal. Very common for an NFL team to have >25% of it's salary cap wrapped up in 3-5 players and the majority of the players within 10% of the league minimums.

NIL is the same deal. Star QB make much more than a star OG but that star OG makes multiple times more than the backup LB who was a late addition to the recruiting class.
Seaton is going to cost way more this season, likely $1.2 Million
Carde Smith is going to cost $900k or so
Cash will cost a few gift cards (jk)
So, if we are all in, then get more money and pay Big Mike
My point is not that we cannot get him, or that we will not pay whatever Prime wants or needs us to do, but this is a lot of money for so many freshman
It is not my money, so whip it out and spread it around

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Seaton is going to cost way more this season, likely $1.2 Million
Carde Smith is going to cost $900k or so
Cash will cost a few gift cards (jk)
So, if we are all in, then get more money and pay Big Mike
My point is not that we cannot get him, or that we will not pay whatever Prime wants or needs us to do, but this is a lot of money for so many freshman
It is not my money, so whip it out and spread it around

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Seaton is already getting more than 1.2 Million.

No idea where that 700,000 figure came from.

He's making 3 times that this year.
 
Seaton is already getting more than 1.2 Million.

No idea where that 700,000 figure came from.

He's making 3 times that this year.
I have no idea how much our guys are getting paid but there is the direct pay for play $$ from our collective and there is the real NIL $$ Prime has facilitated for these guys. I agree, there is zero chance Seaton came to CU for a full package of $700k
 
Everyone is getting something and it spends money way too fast
The NFL has about a $250 Million CAP
Let's give College a $25 Million CAP
So that is easy 1/10th cap number conversion
Average Guard in the NFL Makes about $5 Million, so pay the college equivalent $500k
If the market is just going to go wild, so be it, pay whatever you want, but there will be very good proven transfer Guards that we can get for $500k and likely be very happy with
Even using that math, you're talking about an average guard. Carroll isn't an average guard, he's the #1 OG in the country. Portal is generally more expensive than HS ranks, so you're going to have pay up big money for a comparable transfer talent.
 
And as I said a proven stud P5 transfer OL is going to cost more than that.
Maybe, but that’s what I am being told. Having that, it won’t be cheap. Lots of variation in how OL transfers are compensated, mainly because it’s not been shown a team can build a high quality OL from the transfer portal. What’s going to seriously expensive are DT’s.
 
Maybe, but that’s what I am being told. Having that, it won’t be cheap. Lots of variation in how OL transfers are compensated, mainly because it’s not been shown a team can build a high quality OL from the transfer portal. What’s going to seriously expensive are DT’s.
Amari McNeil is a guy we gotta keep, and I think our DT coaches are a plus
 
What 3 freshmen are we starting?
in this fever dream, it's carde smith at RT, chauncey gooden at RG, and carroll at LG. all good and worthy of minutes, but i cannot imagine this staff leaving a frosh QB with that when we have benson, harden (not sure, he's listed as a senior in some spots), owens, kirkland, attiah who have all been here for a year.
 
SO LT Seaton, FR LG Gooden, SO C Cleveland, FR RG Carroll, FR RT Smith

2025 Line
I have a really hard time seeing that. I think Carroll's going to Bama, but he can probably start at guard if he commits here. I see Smith and Gooden being depth pieces year 1.
 
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