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Bowl Games (other than ours) and associated silliness 2024 Plus the Playoffs

"Alabama, Ole Miss, South Carolina and Missouri are all clearly better than every non-SEC team in the tournament other than Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame."
Everything is always justification for SEC greatness. That conference works overtime to push that narrative, to the point that Bama and Georgia are talking about somehow making their schedules even easier.
 
Everything is always justification for SEC greatness. That conference works overtime to push that narrative, to the point that Bama and Georgia are talking about somehow making their schedules even easier.

What's funny is Georgia actually did get kinda screwed with the schedule, but they went ahead and just earned a spot by winning enough games.
 
Herbstreit is a POS
Indiana deserved to be there and was not able to step up because they are 1 year into a build that Notre Dame has been doing for many years.
KH was a nobody player on average Buckeye teams
Indiana had a door open back up for them because of all the chaos during the 2nd to last weekend of the regular season-Alabama, Ole Miss, CU, and BYU all took losses that essentially ended their playoff hopes that day.

The bloated conferences we now see did them no favors, and I'd argue the same thing effectively kept us out of the Big 12 CCG. We lost tiebreakers to three teams we did not even play. I think that's a conversations we've gotta have this off-season.
 
But would win the MWC
You're saying they'd beat Potato State?

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I don't think Indiana is overrated at all. There's a difference in the big guys which is tough to overcome between the top tier programs and everyone else. A cold weather game like that exacerbates things. Situation was tailor made for the Irish to lean into their advantages while making it a lot harder for Indiana to execute the things that made them great this year.
Indiana was for sure overrated. When they played the two actually good teams they got blown out and were never competitive. Cignetti coached like an asshole in both games, with the sole intent on not getting embarrassed any further. I understood that against Ohio State; they needed the appearance that they were competitive, but last night was cowardly.

They were 11-1 and I don't fault them for their soft schedule as Michigan and Nebraska were two teams on their schedule who failed to live up to their preseason expectations and then they also had Ohio State. BUT, they were not are good as the traditional 11-1 record in a power conference would suggest.

This is the crux of the issue, IMO. With the new conferences, fans, media and the committee are going to have to adjust how we think about W/L records. 11 wins has always meant you're a top 3-5 team in the country with almost zero debate. This new environment has made it so 11 wins might mean you're a top 3-5 team in the country... or that you're a top 12-15 team in the country.
 
What is the purpose of belittling Indiana? They had a great season and will learn from last night. Iron sharpens iron
It's not necessarily about belittling Indiana, as much as belittling the committee and adjusting how we view the new format. Indiana was far more "deserving" than Alabama and Ole Miss but there are very few people out there, even before last night, who believed they were better than either of those teams. This is what happens when one conference plays by different rules than literally ever other conference. The SEC must go to 9 conference games
 
Indiana was for sure overrated. When they played the two actually good teams they got blown out and were never competitive. Cignetti coached like an asshole in both games, with the sole intent on not getting embarrassed any further. I understood that against Ohio State; they needed the appearance that they were competitive, but last night was cowardly.

They were 11-1 and I don't fault them for their soft schedule as Michigan and Nebraska were two teams on their schedule who failed to live up to their preseason expectations and then they also had Ohio State. BUT, they were not are good as the traditional 11-1 record in a power conference would suggest.

This is the crux of the issue, IMO. With the new conferences, fans, media and the committee are going to have to adjust how we think about W/L records. 11 wins has always meant you're a top 3-5 team in the country with almost zero debate. This new environment has made it so 11 wins might mean you're a top 3-5 team in the country... or that you're a top 12-15 team in the country.
I get that it affects seeding but, in the new system, 11-1 in any p4 conference pretty much guarantees a spot in the playoffs. So that team has a chance to prove if they belong or not.
 
This is the crux of the issue, IMO. With the new conferences, fans, media and the committee are going to have to adjust how we think about W/L records. 11 wins has always meant you're a top 3-5 team in the country with almost zero debate. This new environment has made it so 11 wins might mean you're a top 3-5 team in the country... or that you're a top 12-15 team in the country.

Exactly! This is what I've been trying to say
 
I get that it affects seeding but, in the new system, 11-1 in any p4 conference pretty much guarantees a spot in the playoffs. So that team has a chance to prove if they belong or not.
I agree, but I think that's kind of the crux of the entire argument here. With these new conferences where there is a likelihood that some teams will have a cake walk schedule, should SOS and SOR have a higher weighting than just straight W/L? I don't necessarily think so, especially when choosing between two teams that are 11-1 and 9-3, but if Bama or Ole Miss were 10-2, I think the argument for either of them over Indiana would have been very strong.
 
Exactly! This is what I've been trying to say
I agree with you on that. Where I don't agree is that a 9-3 team should get in over an 11-1 team. At some point, the games on the field have to matter and had they elevated Bama or Ole Miss over Indiana, it would have rendered the regular season completely irrelevant and set that precedent going forward.

Indiana might be the 15th best team in the country at 11-1, but that doesn't mean a 9-3 team should have gotten in over them.
 
I agree, but I think that's kind of the crux of the entire argument here. With these new conferences where there is a likelihood that some teams will have a cake walk schedule, should SOS and SOR have a higher weighting than just straight W/L? I don't necessarily think so, especially when choosing between two teams that are 11-1 and 9-3, but if Bama or Ole Miss were 10-2, I think the argument for either of them over Indiana would have been very strong.
I think people would have argued it and lost but we’ll have those debates every year.
 
I think people would have argued it and lost but we’ll have those debates every year.
Unfortunately, I think this Indiana team kind of set the precedent going forward that 11-1 vs 10-2 will be viewed similarly if the 10-2 has a far superior SOS and SOR. The committee is taking a ton of heat from all directions right now.
 
Watson (6'5", 450) entered the portal yesterday. the announcers were hoping he didn't throw this guy. He didn't, he held him that way till the whistle blew. AS a freshman he arrived at 480. .



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I grew up, was raised, an SMU fan. My parents were SMU alums. But I no longer have any affinity for them at all. I view them and all other teams as the enemy of my beloved Buffs. 😆
 
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