hawg1
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Is that what scouts and GMs are saying?
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Bowl Games Thread
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That's what they say. Maybe they mean it. And if this is something that has become ok, I see a problem.
McCaffrey seems to be the only player in question by the people of AllBuffs so that's who I'm defending. Pretty sure I've mentioned Fournette in this thread as well, but for some reason people think his situation is different and his decision is justified. I'm on the side of the player making whatever decision they think is best for their lives.
It's a problem for you and your fandom of college football.
This seems like a stretch. Yes he can get hurt in drills but the likelihood of that happening is way higher in a game.
Yep. I'm not an NFL fan. College becoming more like a business, more like the NFL, is not something I like. I don't have my head in the sand and I'm not a total purist on amateur athletics in the least, but I do still believe in fulfilling your commitments and playing for your team.
I'm also a capitalist and I don't think the "3 years removed from high school" rule is a good one. Guys like Fournette and McCaffrey shouldn't have had to return to college this year. Lamar Jackson should be able to go to the NFL right now if he wants to do so. But those guys do have the option of not playing, signing with an agent, and spending a year working with a trainer. If, instead, they accept a scholarship and membership on the team, they should play when the team has a game for that season and fulfill any other obligations attached to that commitment.
Exactly - as long as they are using the NCAA as a cost free way of getting elite training, coaching, nutrition, etc. when they would otherwise be trying to somehow stay in shape and get bigger, stronger, faster, and more skilled on their own for 3 years, they should be beholden to the school to play all scheduled games.
BTW - I don't see any incongruence between the notion that the NCAA makes obscene amounts of money off of these kids and that the kids should be paid and the notion that the kids should be beholden to schools they play for.
It's a symbiotic relationship, and for 99.999% of players, even the vast majority of kids that end up becoming pros, they need college football just as much as college football needs them. These kids leave high school light years away from where they need to be to compete on the pro level. College football provides a free process in which these kids get to be able to build their bodies to level it needs to be, while improving their mental grasp of the game - it's invaluable, and it shouldn't be discounted.
It's a symbiotic relationship, and for 99.999% of players, even the vast majority of kids that end up becoming pros, they need college football just as much as college football needs them. These kids leave high school light years away from where they need to be to compete on the pro level. College football provides a free process in which these kids get to be able to build their bodies to level it needs to be, while improving their mental grasp of the game - it's invaluable, and it shouldn't be discounted.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
The bigger problem is that we have created two postseasons: 1) games that matter; and, 2) games that don't.
Far beyond CMac and LSU7, this is a big issue for CFB.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
Any Rd 1 or 2 RB should always go pro after 3 and never play in a lower bowl game. The financial risks are just too great.
hawg1
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Me either. But millions are not at stake.
Uhh no I would not. I get what you are saying but I don't agree with it at all.
hawg1
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Beholden? Slaves.
You don't call it anything other than what it is. Dude I wouldn't wanna play next to.
There is a lot at stake, though.
Medford M.
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Hope you're not implying the integrity of the game...
No. I was talking directly about how much is riding on not getting hurt and losing a scholarship.
Definition of team must be different than it was in my day. This is a me thing, end of story. Don't blame them but I don't agree with it.
It's weird, made me think of something. My dad always told me, always see it through with what you do, don't quit or you always will with anything after. He was on the money with that.
If college wasn't such a good deal there would be an alternative.
I am actually surprised that one or more of the big sports agencies hasn't already set up a training academy where the top third year guys can go for training and nutrition without the risk of physical contact and without having to deal with pesky details like staying academically eligible.
They probably haven't because the small number of players who are good enough that it would be to their advantage. The system does in fact favor the huge number of players who aren't elite. Those are the same players who make the system work, without them them the elites would not have their opportunity to develop into stars.
Get that but it's a bitch move imho.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
Ugh. Risk... Reward... Simple as ****. What are you and your crowd not getting?
There is something I didn't mention about this. No matter if their teammates show support in public or with news, whatever. I pretty much guarantee they have a different opinion outside of that.
No worries man, I'm not all pissed about it or anything.
Teammate. What are you not getting?
Ringer
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I can see how people think that, and was a bit surprised with this headline. Insiders at the Farm might be privately seething, but still understand and they will maintain Radio Silence. At that level, it's an individual business and no one is going to give you 7 figures if you bang up your knee in some dumb bowl game and can't physically do all the sh*t you need to do in the combine in a few months.
Medford M.
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Its a childs game. You never put your personal health at risk when its unneccesary. I would encourage every surefire first rounder or probable day 2 pick to do this.