Some of Klatt’s thoughts. “Best Four” is highly subjective.
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CFB Playoff.
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Keep in mind that the Big 12 schedules for their top teams are all pretty back loaded. I would be very surprised to see any Big 12 team come out of there undefeated.
Wake is not getting in with 1 loss.
Bliff Cranch
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Full disclosure: I’d like nothing more than to not see AL in the CFP this year
However, the discussion about whether a two loss AL still deserves to be in the top four misses out on who delivers that second loss and the circumstances surrounding it. We all guess their second loss would be to GA in the SECCG. If they somehow lose ahead of that, they’re FOR SURE not going to be in the CFP. If they get to the SECCG and lose a close, compelling game to GA, I think the playoff committee would see the opportunity for a rematch as must see TV and keep them in the top four, regardless of what happens elsewhere.
However, the discussion about whether a two loss AL still deserves to be in the top four misses out on who delivers that second loss and the circumstances surrounding it. We all guess their second loss would be to GA in the SECCG. If they somehow lose ahead of that, they’re FOR SURE not going to be in the CFP. If they get to the SECCG and lose a close, compelling game to GA, I think the playoff committee would see the opportunity for a rematch as must see TV and keep them in the top four, regardless of what happens elsewhere.
A 2 loss Alabama getting in over a 1 loss Conference Championship Game winner from another conference would piss me off to no end.
And it would simply reinforce the alignment between the ACC-B1G-P12 to fight against the SEC.
It doesn't matter how they get to 2 losses.
Bliff Cranch
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Agreed. Said it before...the question that doesn’t have a correct answer is: are the CFP top four supposed to be the four teams who are most deserving or should they be the four best teams?
In the days of the BCS we essentially had a 2-team playoff, now the "field" is doubled and people complain more than ever. It wouldn't have been any different in the 2000's with teams like Miami, OU, USC, tOSU, Texas, Florida, and LSU making multiple CFB appearances in a short span. If the playoff existed in the 90's FSU would've been in it EVERY year, and also Miami in most years.
This is not a sport of parity and never will be. It's also very subjective when it comes to the rankings. Both of these are one of the many things that make the sport so great.
hawg1
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Best. It’s in their charter.
Are they getting in 0 losses?
I'm not convinced they would. SEC champ, B1G champ, undefeated OU, undefeated Cincy, 1-loss Oregon - all these teams would have a better resume than Wake. Would be interesting to see if the committe has the balls the leave out an undefeated P5 team even given their weak schedule.
Bliff Cranch
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That’s why, IMO, expansion to twelve teams is in the best interest for college football. Limiting it to the four best removes the cinderella possibilities which is what makes March Madness and the field of 64 the best sporting event for fans in the world.
It'll end up at 12, just a matter of when the "Alliance" gets over their hurt feelings
I'm rooting for Wake to win out but have a hard time believing it would happen. They could lose every game they have left on their schedule, not to mention the ACCCG likely against Pitt.
But if Wake wins out chances are it would open up for them. Every year at this time we think we know what's gonna happen and then chaos ensues. Who saw Bama losing to A&M, or Iowa losing to Purdue? tOSU, MSU, Oregon, OU, Cincy - one or some or all of these teams are bound to lose before the season ends.
All the media outrage about Cincy being #6 in the rankings is comical. Yet OU is undefeated at #8 and Wake at #9 yet nobody seems to be complaining about their rankings - and I'm not saying that OU or Wake should be ranked higher, they've both shown enough flaws and don't have the schedules at this point to warrant a higher ranking.
hawg1
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A Cinderella would have a very difficult time winning 3 CFP games.
I’m ready for 12.
Bliff Cranch
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But I’d enjoy it nonetheless. Certainly more than watching four all-star teams.
No changes this week in the top 10 other then OU dropping down as expected. Michigan still ranked ahead of MSU but no big deal there as that will sort itself out. Ohio State is still behind Oregon but the Buckeyes will jump over them in the coming weeks if they keep winning.
I don't know how Michigan is ranked above Michigan State. That clown they put on tv said it was due to statistics? Umm, what is the only statistic that matters? Did you win or lose when you played each other? It's flat bull****. It's about the same damn thing it always is.
I think it was politically motivated to set the stage for jumping Oregon with tOSU.
You could be right. I just know it's bull****.
Head-to-head is just one of the many factors they take into account though. Given tOSU's much tougher schedule down the stretch (MSU, Michigan, Iowa/Wiscy in the B1G championship) they will almost certainly jump Oregon if both teams keep winning. Texas A&M is ranked 5 spots ahead of Arkansas who beat A&M and both teams have the same record.
ahoelsken
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Alabama has to win out and beat Georgia. Period. No way they're getting in if they lose another game.
I get all that, but head to head, you lost. Why should you be voted over them?
It comes down to overall body of work though. Good example, if Cincy loses a game and the 4th spot comes down to 1-loss ND and 1-loss Cincy then I'd say ND should get the nod.
Wait, didn't they go to ND and beat them? Say Cincy wins out, then what?
Sure, if Cincy wins out then they should and would get in over ND if it came down to these 2
You sure about that? I'm not.