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LesGrossman said:

Is it just me or is there at least one article by the NYT every single ****ing year using CU as the example to question why sports should exist?

Guy rooted for us to be “above caring about winning football games”…. These people kill me bros. ARE YOU ****ING BLIND
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Another example of not wanting to live in the world that is.

No, you will not find in the CU mission a goal of out-competing the Broncos for the sports entertainment dollar of consumers.

Yes, the attention that college sports, particularly football, receive is incredibly disproportionate to their importance to the actual endeavors of a university.

But knowing how sports, particularly football, promote the university while serving as a social connector for students, alums and community to drive donations and applications... what is the actual complaint? Sounds like the journalist and everyone he observed at Folsom had a fantastic time and made great lifelong memories attached to CU from that event. What, exactly, is the problem other than his philosophical, personal value judgment that sports should not be something in which universities involve themselves?

Honestly, it reads to me as someone pissing on the good time people are enjoying and arrogantly telling us that we have misplaced values for being passionate about football.

P.S. I hope the author appreciates that the clicks the NYT will get for a Prime CU story is the only reason he got a free trip to Boulder and an opportunity to attend a game for free, resulting in him having a great time making memories while getting to reconnect with friends and mentors for this story.
 
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Buffnik said:
Another example of not wanting to live in the world that is.

No, you will not find in the CU mission a goal of out-competing the Broncos for the sports entertainment dollar of consumers.

Yes, the attention that college sports, particularly football, receive is incredibly disproportionate to their importance to the actual endeavors of a university.

But knowing how sports, particularly football, promote the university while serving as a social connector for students, alums and community to drive donations and applications... what is the actual complaint? Sounds like the journalist and everyone he observed at Folsom had a fantastic time and made great lifelong memories attached to CU from that event. What, exactly, is the problem other than his philosophical, personal value judgment that sports should not be something in which universities involve themselves?

Honestly, it reads to me as someone pissing on the good time people are enjoying and arrogantly telling us that we have misplaced values for being passionate about football.
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It reads like someone who goes to one wine tasting and becomes the arbiter of luxury and culture
 
I haven't paid to get past the paywall on the NYT and am not going to bother otherwise.

Nick is correct that a lot of things about college sports are out of proportion but it's also ridiculous but understandable that they would use CU with Prime as an example.

Understandable because Prime is the huge story, CU draws the TV ratings, huge numbers of people out there are following CU, many of them hoping to see CU football and Prime fail for a variety of reasons, the biggest one being that he is a proud Black man who doesn't bow to the white establishment of the game.

Ridiculous because they don't pay attention to what Prime is really about. Yes he is very much about winning, yes he expects his team to perform and will make changes necessary for that to happen.

They don't though pay attention to his other expectations for his players. Expectations that they go to class, expectations that they get the most positive out of the college experience, expectations that they be quality people off the field and after football.

When you get 100+ young men away from home for the first time in a college environment with the attention and other benefits that come from being an athlete you will eventually have some issues. Compare though what we have seen from the Buffs since Prime has been here to many other schools.

Look at the graduation rate, at the team GPA, at the relatively small number of players who have shown up in police reports (in a town that is known for making sure any transgression is reported.)

No Prime isn't perfect and I do wish for a situation where college football was more in line with what we think a college should be all about but trying to use CU as an example of what is wrong with college football only serves to show the biases of the author and the reading audience.
 
I somehow transitioned from that NYTimes article to this:
theonion.com

Deion Sanders Admits He Has No Idea What School Colorado Buffaloes Play For

BOULDER, CO—Emphasizing that he was primarily focused on running the football team, head coach Deion Sanders admitted to reporters Wednesday that he has absolutely zero idea what school the Colorado Buffaloes play for. “Look, my job is to devote my full attention to making sure the offense puts...
theonion.com theonion.com

I think it's funny. I think there is a little truth in it for college coaches in this environment in pushing the brand and not necessarily the school.
 
RiverBuff said:
I somehow transitioned from that NYTimes article to this:
theonion.com

Deion Sanders Admits He Has No Idea What School Colorado Buffaloes Play For

BOULDER, CO—Emphasizing that he was primarily focused on running the football team, head coach Deion Sanders admitted to reporters Wednesday that he has absolutely zero idea what school the Colorado Buffaloes play for. “Look, my job is to devote my full attention to making sure the offense puts...
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I think it's funny. I think there is a little truth in it for college coaches in this environment in pushing the brand and not necessarily the school.
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There's a ton of truth. This is why the pitch has been "Play for Prime" and not "Be a Box State Buff". Prime is the bigger and more attractive brand. Something that has to equalize over the next few years.
 
I was going to post a screed about the rankings this week, but the top 25 (and top 12 specifically) is crazy:
  • Half of the top 12 in the AP poll has a loss, and SEVEN of the top 12 in the coaches poll have a loss- going back 10 years, only in a handful of them have there been more than two teams in the top twelve with a loss, and only once has there been more than 4 (5 in 2017)
  • Of the 7 losses the top 12 (in either poll) have sustained, only 2 have been to teams currently ranked in the top 25 (Clemson to #5 Georgia, and Georgia to #7 Alabama). I didn't go back to previous years, but this has to be some sort of record.
  • 2 of those losses to unranked teams were home losses (Ole Miss to Kentucky, and Notre Dame to NIU)
  • 1 more loss to an unranked team was a neutral site loss (LSU to USC)
  • There's also a number of 1-loss teams in the rest of the top 25, but really no "bad" losses in the bunch except for Utah's home loss to Arizona; all the rest of the losses in the top 25 are to currently ranked teams
And yet, I look at the advanced metrics (F+, SP+, Sagarin), and the top 12 by advanced metrics is still pretty much the same as the top 12 in the poll.

This year is crazy. Starting to feel a little like 2007.
 
Option A: You make $200 million and your neighbor makes $200 million

Option B: You make $100 million and your neighbor makes $50 million

Economists have actually studied this at the household level, and people overwhelmingly prefer option B (obviously at lower household earnings, not college football revenue shown above).

I expect the same effect to tank any 70 team proposal unless the entrenched top tier is guaranteed more (which they alluded to as a possibility).
 
Creebuzz said:
Option A: You make $200 million and your neighbor makes $200 million

Option B: You make $100 million and your neighbor makes $50 million

Economists have actually studied this at the household level, and people overwhelmingly prefer option B (obviously at lower household earnings, not college football revenue shown above).

I expect the same effect to tank any 70 team proposal unless the entrenched top tier is guaranteed more (which they alluded to as a possibility).
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In college athletics, that psychology makes more sense than it does with people looking at their earnings on a relative basis.

It's not an enterprise driven by a profit motive. There are no owners or shareholders trying to increase their wealth. It's about positive exposure for the university and gaining competitive advantage. For example, I would say if given the option between CU and CSU both getting $100M or CU getting $50M while CSU gets $20M, the second option is a better situation for CU. All the money just ends up inflating coach salaries and other investments to separate from competition, not to do anything which functionally benefits the university or its fans. College sports is about relative branding, not about intrinsic valuation.
 
SewallBeach said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843365999162409434
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For football purposes they should change their name to Texas A&M Comical.

In 2022 they won 5 games but at least two were D2 or lower. In 2023 they won a total of one game. So far this year they are 0-6 and have only been within one score in one of those.

They do get their big chance to win one this week playing Northwestern State (LA) who is also 0-6 and has lost by an average score of 50-14.

How is Nebraska not scheduling these schools?
 
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