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Conference Expansion - Big 12 is a tire fire
- Thread starter hokiehead
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Does the performance yesterday by the lammies and the performance today by Houston put the nail in the coffin for CSU?
This game is over now. Same ole OU.
OU had to have that stop.
I don't think so.... they aren't going to make decisions like that based off one game.
EddieCrowder
Well-Known Member
They were not getting in before the game started, the outcome does not change a thing their G5 and staying there
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
This. Bobo also isn't going anywhere as a stepping stone job.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
I've said it before, CSU will be in the Big Sky within 10 years.
Deleted member 807
Guest
One way or another, they're destined for something Big.
DeNiro
My Dixie Wrecked
The MWC will just be on the same level, but good guess.
http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/17447429
Nothing we didn't know, but interesting nonetheless. CSU got a shout out.
Nothing we didn't know, but interesting nonetheless. CSU got a shout out.
Interesting to look at the numbers in the link within the article.
Money differences between CU and CSU are pretty dramatic. Truly hard to see how CSU thinks they can continue on the path they are, the numbers just don't make sense.
Big 12 Expansion weekly standings
1. No. 15 Houston (1-0): 33-23 win against No. 3 Oklahoma
2. BYU (1-0): 18-16 win against Arizona
3. SMU (1-0): 34-21 win at North Texas
4. UCF (1-0): 38-0 win against South Carolina State
5. USF (1-0): 56-20 win against Towson
6. Cincinnati (1-0): 28-7 win against Tennessee-Martin
7. Air Force (1-0): 37-21 win against Abilene Christian
8. UConn (1-0): 24-21 win against Maine
9. Tulane (0-1): 7-3 loss at Wake Forest
10. Rice (0-1): 46-14 loss at Western Kentucky
11. Colorado State (0-1): 44-7 loss at Colorado
A little run for the possibility of adding UCF & USF. http://www.inquisitr.com/3491659/bi...-to-large-tv-markets-fertile-recruiting-area/
Florida only having 3 P5 teams is awfully light in consideration for the population and talent in that state. Texas has 5 (possibly 6 if Houston moves up). California has 4 (possibly 5 if SDSU moves up - less likely).
Plus, Orlando and Tampa are serious media markets that aren't currently owned by any college programs. These are also huge universities. UCF has almost 55k undergrads. USF has over 36k undergrads. Pretty much G5 in name only and could be serious players if raised to P5.
Maybe go to 14 members? UCF/USF + Cincinnati/Houston? That would be some serious additions to recruiting grounds.
Or maybe they go to 12 this way, opening the door for the Pac-12 to snag Houston?
Florida only having 3 P5 teams is awfully light in consideration for the population and talent in that state. Texas has 5 (possibly 6 if Houston moves up). California has 4 (possibly 5 if SDSU moves up - less likely).
Plus, Orlando and Tampa are serious media markets that aren't currently owned by any college programs. These are also huge universities. UCF has almost 55k undergrads. USF has over 36k undergrads. Pretty much G5 in name only and could be serious players if raised to P5.
Maybe go to 14 members? UCF/USF + Cincinnati/Houston? That would be some serious additions to recruiting grounds.
Or maybe they go to 12 this way, opening the door for the Pac-12 to snag Houston?
This is precisely what I would do if I was the Big 12.
And for the Pac-12, UNLV case getting stronger than ever considering the size of the state, growth rate and the quality of the HS football being played there. If they get the stadium with the Raiders, it will be crazy not to have them in the Pac.
Here's what they just announced as opening in 2017 for a new football facility on campus:
http://footballscoop.com/news/unlvs-new-facility-will-scream-las-vegas/
Here's what they just announced as opening in 2017 for a new football facility on campus:
http://footballscoop.com/news/unlvs-new-facility-will-scream-las-vegas/
Why not? What's so terrible about being in a 12 team league?
Much better to be a good 12 team league than a bad 14 or 16 team league.
If adding teams makes the league better then do it, if it makes the league weaker or less financially valuable on average then no.
So far I haven't seen a lot of proposals that make the league better for the existing members.
I refer you to the SEC and Big 10 paydays compared to the Pac's. I also refer you to the last 12 pages of this thread. Just because you don't like it, and I don't necessarily like it, doesn't mean you can stick your head in the sand if you are the Pac 12. If a pair of two pairs of schools become available that will add real value, then you have to consider it.
Can't be UNLV, I did not see any slot machines.
Personally, I understand going from 10 to 12 due to a conference championship game. 12 to 14 is a bit harder for me to wrap my head around. You get additional game volume and can expand into new markets for tv & recruiting, but it has to be significant to justify that expansion. 16 is where I see the potential for a big payoff if it includes 2 semi-final games for the conference title.
I agree, except I think it will be 4 instead of 5. What I really wonder, though, is if it will include an opportunity for a G6 team to crash the party. Moving toward the P5/4 conferences not even scheduling them.
