I don't agree that celebration implies intent.
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Easy peazy
All the things the NCAA considers ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’
Your detailed rundown of the NCAA’s celebration rules.
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Thanks for mansplaining. But it doesn't mean it's right. That Iowa State call there was about as bad as you get. Horn's call was also bad and that rule needs to change. There needs to be a distinction between a taunt and having fun and it shold be penalized afer the play or on the kickoff, but not a point of foul call. It's not the same thing as a holding call and shoujldn't be treated as such.
buffs07
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His fingers were pointing up, not at the opponentEasy peazy
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All the things the NCAA considers ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’
Your detailed rundown of the NCAA’s celebration rules.
Ringer
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Check out this video that Uncle Neely dropped on Thee Pregame Show today. At 1:15, it shows Senior Defensive Coach George Helow making halftime adjustments with the linebackers and DBs in the cramped and chaotic Tech visitors locker room. He was a great pickup for Colorado, after similar stints at Michigan, Georgia, Florida State, and most recently Alabama. It's worth the 120 seconds of your life. The rest of the video has some interesting sideline content.
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Helow knows his stuff.
So happy we got Helow!
Oh? I didn’t realize horn “pointed his fingers” at the opponent. Did he do that?Easy peazy
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All the things the NCAA considers ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’
Your detailed rundown of the NCAA’s celebration rules.
Miss me with that mansplaining BS, the rule is the rule whether you like it or not. I don't like the rule bit that doesn't matter.
Doing what Horn did at an opponent is taunting under the rules.
This is as dumb as the Broncos fans who are saying the Chiefs lined up illegally on the blocked FG attempt.
Ringer
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Regarding the taunting and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties which Colorado receives every game--Just don't do most of that Bulljunk. I agree that some of the calls have been ticky-tacky, but don't take your helmet off on the field, team leaders Shedeur and Cam; or throw a sign while your TD run is still going on, Jimmy; or tripping a guy on the sidelines, Shilo. These things will draw penalties every time. It hasn't affected a game outcome so far, but it sure could going forward.
In fairness, Shilo's grab was in reaction to the other guy doing something which was unsportsmanlike conduct and went uncalled. I don't generally get as upset with that, but sometimes you have to take that bull junk to avoid getting baited into a penalty.
Ringer
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I agree with you, but the other guy's callable but fairly minor transgression was unseen by the officials, and Shilo's ankle grab/trip retaliation will be called 100% of the time. Just don't do that. Be smarter, and just get up and play. Penalties which occur due to hand gestures, one's mouth, and unnecessary activities after a play is over are absolutely preventable.
I like watching highlights of Deion Sanders high stepping with his arm behind his head, I like watching Jimmy throw the peace out sign speeding past someone who can’t catch him. That stuff is fun. I like watching Travis and some competitive guy push each other after the play and then give each other a low five. That is sports. You beat someone you let him know. He beats you he lets you know. Taunting can be respectful as well.
Fail. Fail better.
With that, my impression is that the attitude from our Buffs is that the taunting, smack talk and celebrations are all in fun and in the spirit of competition. They seem to enjoy it when the other team gives it right back in the same spirit.
For example, I don't think that our guys would feel it was unsportsmanlike if someone wagged a finger after breaking up a pass or flashed a "peace-out" on the way to the end zone against us. I think they'd see it as part of competition and the show.
The good news about the fourth-down finger wag in the endzone is set up that great goal line stand, so there's that.
It's obvious when you watch this vs. when you watch a typical college locker room that Prime wants as much of an NFL approach as he can build. Coaches with NFL experience and an NFL mindset, players expected to function and adapt like pros.
It can't be exactly the same. They have far less time to work on things than NFL teams have and the level of knowledge that players have is far less but the approach is as much the same as they can make it. They also don't have the multi-year vets that are in an NFL locker room who have the knowledge and the confidence to make some of those adjustments on their own.
And that locker room is an embarrassment. It's a glorified broom closet. Skinny wooden benches and some hooks on the walls are ridiculous. It is one thing to try to gain advantage over a visiting opponent but there should be some standards and that one falls far short.
With the taunting discussion here a player altering his stride when he is 20 yards ahead of the closest defender gets a flag and they take a TD off the board but a bunch of hallways with a bench and hooks on the wall qualifies as a lockerroom?
I posted in game that the taunting rule is stupid but as long as the refs are going to call it the way it is players need to adapt.