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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

If (when) the SEC expands again the question is will they go outside their current footprint or not. If they decide to stay within their current footprint then there are some obvious choices like Clemson and FSU, maybe Miami and GT. Outside their current footprint UNC is probably their best option and maybe UVA. When Sankey was asked about expansion last summer he was specifically asked about how important contiguous states are (we would technically meet that) and he said that like-minded universities were really what they were looking for. Which makes me wonder how much the lack of a baseball program would deter the SEC from having interest in CU, unless maybe an invite came with the caveat that we have to bring back our baseball program within a certain period of time.
Sorry, my friend. Baseball is not determining conference expansions decisions.

Ever.
 
Sorry, my friend. Baseball is not determining conference expansions decisions.

Ever.

No of course not, deter was probably the wrong way to put it. If the SEC is looking for schools with a strong, all around athletic department they might say to CU we'll extend you an invite but with the stipulation that you bring back your baseball program within X number of years. It would mainly depend on if the SEC wants to expand further west and get into the Denver market.
 
No of course not, deter was probably the wrong way to put it. If the SEC is looking for schools with a strong, all around athletic department they might say to CU we'll extend you an invite but with the stipulation that you bring back your baseball program within X number of years. It would mainly depend on if the SEC wants to expand further west and get into the Denver market.
The point you are missing is there is zero consideration to "all around AD" in this game. It is about football. Period.
 
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No of course not, deter was probably the wrong way to put it. If the SEC is looking for schools with a strong, all around athletic department they might say to CU we'll extend you an invite but with the stipulation that you bring back your baseball program within X number of years. It would mainly depend on if the SEC wants to expand further west and get into the Denver market.
I doubt it. The Pac 12 is/was a premier baseball conference and didn’t care. In this hypothetical, CU’s football brand and football viewership because of Prime is going to be attractive. The lack of a baseball team won’t be a deal breaker
 
I could see one of those two conferences making a push for AZ and KU in order to create a super basketball conference.
 
If anything schools in the SEC will be dropping baseball when push comes to shove. Its all and only about football.
 
I could see one of those two conferences making a push for AZ and KU in order to create a super basketball conference.
possible, but I still think it's more likely we end up with P2 national conferences for football and smaller regional conferences for all other sports.
 
possible, but I still think it's more likely we end up with P2 national conferences for football and smaller regional conferences for all other sports.
Yes. The ere are a lot of ways this could go. My scenario is probably not as likely as others, but I can see a path where the SEC decides it already has college football figured out, and decides that adding UNC, KU and UA would then corner the college hoops market. Basically have high level content from August through April.
 
Yes. The ere are a lot of ways this could go. My scenario is probably not as likely as others, but I can see a path where the SEC decides it already has college football figured out, and decides that adding UNC, KU and UA would then corner the college hoops market. Basically have high level content from August through April.

That is actually not a bad idea.

That way the other sports conferences don't implode when college football eventually leaves the NCAA.
 
csu brings absolutely nothing to the table..nothing
Depends on your definition of value. I agree that they don’t bring eyeballs or tv sets and don’t do anything to increase the financial status of the league. They would, however, provide CU a better paired in-conference rival. They would be a good geographical fit and they would provide an easy win more often than not.
 
Depends on your definition of value. I agree that they don’t bring eyeballs or tv sets and don’t do anything to increase the financial status of the league. They would, however, provide CU a better paired in-conference rival. They would be a good geographical fit and they would provide an easy win more often than not.
Geographical fit is nonsense in today's conference re-alignment world. Los Angeles schools are now in the same conference as a school in New Jersey.
 
Geographical fit is nonsense in today's conference re-alignment world. Los Angeles schools are now in the same conference as a school in New Jersey.
There are outliers for sure but geographical fit is absolutely still important. 2 schools out of 32 in the power 2 conferences will be out of place.
 
The point was whether CSU provides any value at all. They do. I don’t see how that is even debatable. The fact that the value they bring isn’t worth much to the PAC 12 is what will keep them on the outside looking in. That doesn’t mean they bring absolutely nothing to the table. In a perfect world, I think having them in the conference would be nice. It would be nice to have geography mean something again.
 
The point was whether CSU provides any value at all. They do. I don’t see how that is even debatable. The fact that the value they bring isn’t worth much to the PAC 12 is what will keep them on the outside looking in. That doesn’t mean they bring absolutely nothing to the table. In a perfect world, I think having them in the conference would be nice. It would be nice to have geography mean something again.
Certain teams can bring much to the table in terms of geography, cultural fit, competitive rivalries, academics, whatever.

What drives expansion is revenue accretion per school on TV contracts. CSU does not do that for the PAC 12, and that is not debatable either.

Much like you, I wish conference membership were driven by the former, but it is not.
 
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