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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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If you see the tea leaves long term, why buy into a league that may already be trending to implosion, your investment is depreciating
Victory
Well-Known Member
It might not be a bad thing. Could mean it’s Amazon and ESPN. Could also mean this guy has an active imagination and is listening to the voices in his head and they said Apple is out.
Big Jim
WTF?
ION tv probably outbid them
Knee jerk reaction, no.
But not having a clear idea what out alternatives are, that answer I have low confidence in that answer.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
I wouldn’t give up anything for UW or Oregon. They’re gone to the BIG the instant the BIG decides they want them - unequal revenue sharing isn’t keeping them in the PAC.
LOL, that is as comforting as an AD giving his FB coach the dreaded vote of confidence.
Yes, certainly Apple TV would never be able to put out a sports broadcast that is as good as linear TV or cable networks
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Meeting is today, I believe.
NuggNinja
Well-Known Member
No, especially since it’s obvious they are just biding their time hoping for an eventual Big 10 invite. And it looks like the eventual numbers will be underwhelming.
So putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage nationally and within the conference to buy a couple more years of a conference to appease two teams with one foot out the door would be beyond idiotic.
But after they sat by idly and watched Larry Scott run the conference into the ground and replaced him with a guy clearly in over his head…I am not confident any of these schools will take a smart and strategically sound approach to handling this.
I actually believe that the ADs don’t want to see the PAC 12 dissolve. It’s not in their interest to have that happen. But as has been pointed out several times. They’re not the ones driving this train. I genuinely believe ESPN and the other media that control college athletics would like to see it happen.
Oregon and Washington have no leverage to ask for unequal rev share, unless they are willing to sign an iron clad GOR with the rest of the conference, but I don't think that's going to happen, since no amount of unequal rev share is enough to pass up the chance to jump to the B1G if invited. So no, they can pound sand.
Oregon and Washington have no leverage whatsoever. It would be about the dumbest thing ever for anyone in the Pac 12 to agree to that. I'd hope CU and everyone else would start belly laughing when that is brought up.
Big 12 readies to pounce on Four Corners schools as doubt creeps in about Pac-12's viability
Realignment and expansion has slowed, but it has absolutely not stopped
www.cbssports.com
Please tell me his craft isn't hairstyling.
Big Jim
WTF?
Nothing new. Article could have been written two months ago.Big 12 readies to pounce on Four Corners schools as doubt creeps in about Pac-12's viability
Realignment and expansion has slowed, but it has absolutely not stopped
Yomark has been writing that article for he sock Dodd over and over and over and over again.
And ITB posts it every damn time.
I'm starting to be convinced that the "Big XII adding the 4 Corners" is the new QAnon for these people. "It's coming, it's just not time yet... it will all be revealed in time and then we will add the four corners!"
He did say he wishes he could be more devoted to his craft, so there’s a lot of room for improvement there.
I hear JFK Jr. is going to be our new commissioner.
Yesterday was a travel day for me. I keep thinking it's Wednesday.
The lesson, as always, is that I'm an idiot.
With that said, how come no B1G announcement? Looking at you, McChesney
I think it's about dominating the Megaregions when we look at the conferences.
SEC has complete dominance of "Gulf Coast" and "Texas Triangle" now. Its remaining moves are to gain dominance in the "Piedmont Atlantic" and "Florida" megaregions. The keys to that are North Carolina and Miami, with a number of secondary properties also from the ACC which would have value. I don't believe the SEC has any interest in the "Northeast" or any of the 5 western Megaregions.
The B1G traditionally owns the "Great Lakes" and seems to want the "Northeast". UVA is the big remaining prize there. The other Northeast consideration is the New England region, which doesn't have good football options. The best bet might be UConn and I wouldn't totally discount that, especially in consideration of elite status in men's & women's hoops.
The rest for the B1G is the West. Washington + Oregon would dominate "Cascadia", Stanford + Cal would dominate "Northern California", and it seems to me that when looking at "Front Range" and "Arizona Sun" it gets them to a better place on regional dominance of population zones by going Colorado + Arizona.
Taking the above, here are my 8 additions to both the SEC and B1G for 2 24-team conferences that would effectively split the country and dominate each region:
SEC adds: Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, UNC, NCSU, VT, Louisville
B1G adds: Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Colorado, Virginia, Notre Dame (UConn, Utah or KU get picked if ND refuses to join a football conference).
FWIW - I think the Big 12 would add ASU, SDSU, Pitt and Utah very quickly if this happened.
SEC has complete dominance of "Gulf Coast" and "Texas Triangle" now. Its remaining moves are to gain dominance in the "Piedmont Atlantic" and "Florida" megaregions. The keys to that are North Carolina and Miami, with a number of secondary properties also from the ACC which would have value. I don't believe the SEC has any interest in the "Northeast" or any of the 5 western Megaregions.
The B1G traditionally owns the "Great Lakes" and seems to want the "Northeast". UVA is the big remaining prize there. The other Northeast consideration is the New England region, which doesn't have good football options. The best bet might be UConn and I wouldn't totally discount that, especially in consideration of elite status in men's & women's hoops.
The rest for the B1G is the West. Washington + Oregon would dominate "Cascadia", Stanford + Cal would dominate "Northern California", and it seems to me that when looking at "Front Range" and "Arizona Sun" it gets them to a better place on regional dominance of population zones by going Colorado + Arizona.
Taking the above, here are my 8 additions to both the SEC and B1G for 2 24-team conferences that would effectively split the country and dominate each region:
SEC adds: Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, UNC, NCSU, VT, Louisville
B1G adds: Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, Arizona, Colorado, Virginia, Notre Dame (UConn, Utah or KU get picked if ND refuses to join a football conference).
FWIW - I think the Big 12 would add ASU, SDSU, Pitt and Utah very quickly if this happened.
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Victory
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Cascadia, Sun Region, I’m liking this middle Earth vibe here. White walkers in Canada.
From what some rando tweeted at me said, and he was 100% sure so it’s probably not true, UVA and VT can’t break away from each other. I don’t believe it but there are those who believe flagships and “state” schools have some legal obligation to each other.
Interesting listen on Pac-12 This Morning. Canzano discussed many things, brief recap:
1. He believes the most likely scenario is tier 1 games on ESPN, with tier 2 games and games formerly on Pac12 network on Apple/Amazon or combination of both. Potentially with Amazon taking a Friday night games, and Saturday on ESPN/Apple.
2. Why so slow in negotiations? One example was when the issue of networks picking certain games comes up, ESPN gets through it in about an hour (because they are used to it), but it takes Apple/Amazon days to a week for their lawyers to comprehend everything.
3. Four corner schools are reluctant to make a "lateral move" to Big 12 for 2 to 5MM more than what Pac expects to agree to.
4. Pac/Acc partnership (not merger) is still a thing, but mostly more because ESPN wants to increase revenue to ACC members.
1. He believes the most likely scenario is tier 1 games on ESPN, with tier 2 games and games formerly on Pac12 network on Apple/Amazon or combination of both. Potentially with Amazon taking a Friday night games, and Saturday on ESPN/Apple.
2. Why so slow in negotiations? One example was when the issue of networks picking certain games comes up, ESPN gets through it in about an hour (because they are used to it), but it takes Apple/Amazon days to a week for their lawyers to comprehend everything.
3. Four corner schools are reluctant to make a "lateral move" to Big 12 for 2 to 5MM more than what Pac expects to agree to.
4. Pac/Acc partnership (not merger) is still a thing, but mostly more because ESPN wants to increase revenue to ACC members.