Sounds like you need to visit some of the upcoming and progressive cities in the South like Greenville, Charleston, Boone, or Birmingham.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Sounds like you need to visit some of the upcoming and progressive cities in the South like Greenville, Charleston, Boone, or Birmingham.
GoBuffs08
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Home prices in Charleston are at the same level as the Denver metro, but ignorance is bliss.
I wasn't referring to home prices, just those cities in general. But yes housing in Charleston itself is very expensive however there are surrounding areas which are pretty reasonable.
Agenda Item Details
Meeting
Jul 12, 2023 - Summer Retreat/Board Meeting (Wednesday - Friday, July 12-14, 2023)
Category
3:00 - 5:30 p.m. WEDNESDAY, JULY 12, 2023 CALL TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION, Chair Callie Rennison presiding - Seminar 3
Subject
3:00 - 5:30 p.m. Executive Session - Seminar 3
Type
ACTION
Recommended Action
RESOLVED that the Board of Regents go into executive session. As permitted by §24-6-402 (3), Colorado Revised Statutes, the board will discuss the following matters as announced and pursuant to the subsection listed below:
• (b)(I), Personnel matter at CU System - Board operations
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Supreme Court decision on affirmative action in admissions
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Regent Policy 10 revisions
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Update on Supreme Court cases
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - CU Boulder athletics update
3:00 - 3:30 p.m. Regents, President, VP Dinegar, and VP Radovich Piper only
3:30 - 5:30 p.m. Regents, President, Chancellors, Executive Team
Probably a nothing burger, however this last item • (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - CU Boulder athletics update
was added last night at the last minute. It wasn't originally on the docket.
Meeting
Jul 12, 2023 - Summer Retreat/Board Meeting (Wednesday - Friday, July 12-14, 2023)
Category
3:00 - 5:30 p.m. WEDNESDAY, JULY 12, 2023 CALL TO ORDER/EXECUTIVE SESSION, Chair Callie Rennison presiding - Seminar 3
Subject
3:00 - 5:30 p.m. Executive Session - Seminar 3
Type
ACTION
Recommended Action
RESOLVED that the Board of Regents go into executive session. As permitted by §24-6-402 (3), Colorado Revised Statutes, the board will discuss the following matters as announced and pursuant to the subsection listed below:
• (b)(I), Personnel matter at CU System - Board operations
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Supreme Court decision on affirmative action in admissions
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Regent Policy 10 revisions
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - Update on Supreme Court cases
• (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - CU Boulder athletics update
3:00 - 3:30 p.m. Regents, President, VP Dinegar, and VP Radovich Piper only
3:30 - 5:30 p.m. Regents, President, Chancellors, Executive Team
Probably a nothing burger, however this last item • (a)(II), Legal advice on a specific matter - CU Boulder athletics update
was added last night at the last minute. It wasn't originally on the docket.
$10 says it's some update to the Nike contract given the Prime news on that front last week.
Big Jim
WTF?
Denver is close to Boulder so therefore the median home price in Charleston is as expensive as a house in Silicon Valley.
Dr Ship
Well-Known Member
It will be a kill shot. Regardless of what happens this round, Oregon and Washington are looking for a way out, and I would say are ahead of Colorado for a spot in the BIG. This media deal is a band-aid to keep the PAC alive for another 5-6 years. Band-aids don't fix bullet holes.
I assume the worst because your conference has demonstrated inept leadership over the last decade.
The whole SDSU thing makes this even weirder. Maybe they're incompetent, but I can't imagine why you send their mid June letter to the MW unless you're sure you're getting an invite. Doesn't sound like Big XII interest was ever there, and I'm wondering if the Pac pulled the rug out from under them.because they don't move the needle.
I'm not trying to will anything into existence, just reading the tea leaves as I see them. Seems to me some people here are too busy chugging Kool-Aid. Realistically, if you guys stick with the Pac now, I'm guessing your money will be about what the Big XII is. I won't speculate if that is before or after Comcast payments, Pac 12 Network costs are factored in. You stick together for another 5 years or so, and then Oregon and Washington get their BIG invite. At that point, ACC probably gets eaten by the SEC/BIG/Big XII, and you guys could get into the Big XII, probably on reduced shares.
I also believe media deal have topped out. The next SEC and BIG deal won't be as large. wouldn't shock me if they stopped dropping some brands (Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Mississippi State) to get some bigger names. Maybe you guys can sneak in that way.
Maybe the more people learn about concussions, parents quit letting their kids play, and footballs popularity becomes very regional (South and Midwest). Maybe football isn't the cash cow that it is now and basketball takes it's place. At that point the Big XII would be the place to be. But I digress; that's a long ways off.
The ACC has 13 years left in their GOR. I'm not sure why anything would change for them in 5-6 years, short of getting at least 8 members to agree to dissolve the conference, and even then I'm not entirely sure what that would mean for their actually media rights
Could be. I only posted it because I thought that it being added last night after dinner time was a bit curious.
What exactly are you saying here? LOL.
Dr Ship
Well-Known Member
I am aware of that, but considering they have people trying to get out now, who knows what could happen then. Their deal is terrible and that isn't going to change. People will want out, might get their ducks in a row between the other 3 conferences, and could vote to dissolve. Should be interesting.
California HS Activities Association has already noted declining football participation YoY for several years now. That against the backdrop of increasing participation total numbers. I.e. Boys are being directed into different sports.
For the sixth consecutive season, 11-man participation levels for high school football in California have declined, according to the annual CIF participation survey.
There was no survey done in 2020-21 because of the pandemic. For 2021-22, 84,626 played football, down from 89,756 in 2019-20 and down from 91,305 in 2018-19. There has been a decline every season since 2015.
Participation in high school football in California declines for 6th consecutive year
84,626 played football in 2021, down from 89,756 in 2019. For the sixth consecutive year, participation falls, according to the survey.
www.latimes.com
Dr Ship
Well-Known Member
The more people learn about the long term effects of concussions, the less likely parents are to let their kids play football. I'm seeing it happen and I live in rural Wisconsin. It's an expensive sport and with school budgets being as tight as they are, I could see high schools drop it. If that talent well dries up, what happens to CFB? And the the NFL? Football has been a money printing machine for decades, and i think that will start to change
Over the course of the next 20-30 years, I would not be shocked if football's popularity dropped, and basketball took the top spot. If that were the case, and the Big XII maintained its spot as the top basketball conference, that would be the one to be in.
Wild speculation, I know. But we are talking out our asses here.
Really, basketball and soccer are the easiest sports to fund, are safer than other major sports in regard to head injury risk, and have equal gender participation. It's certainly going to be the trend, just like through the WW2 era the most popular American sports were boxing and baseball - things change.
You do not have to subscribe to apple tv plus to subscribe to the mls package on the apple tv app, and there is no reason to think that a pac 12 package would be any different.
BlackNGold
Club Member
And what is your point?
Dr Ship
Well-Known Member
100% agree. Football won't go away, but it's going to become MUCH more regional and won't be the cash cow it has been. I'm thankful I live in a region I think it will stay popular.
I also hate to see soccer's popularity rise. Can't stand the sport. Glad I've got hockey here in the great white north.
At what point will the decline in participation hurt the product. As my son told me, the neighbor boys decided against playing football this year because "it wasn't worth the grind" for little to no playing time.
Why would you care if soccer popularity rises? I don’t really care for it either but it’s pretty easy just to not watch it, or pay attention to it.
Dr Ship
Well-Known Member
Because as it's popularity rises I will hear about it more regardless of if I try to avoid it
I've never watched anything with the Kardashians but still know things about them. I've never gone out of my way to listen to Justin Bieber but could still identify soem of his songs. I also realize this is an, "Old man yells at clouds" moment, and am OK with that.
The number of HS participants in football (2020 stats), nationwide, was just over 1m. That's about the same number of participants in basketball, soccer and lacrosse combined, and I would imagine that many of the football participants also play basketball.
Furthermore, the percentage of HS football players who go on to play at any level of college is ~7%. The percentage that go D1 is ~3%. Since D1 also includes FCS and G5, I would venture to guess that <1% of all HS football players end up going to a P5 program where most NFL players come from.
Basically, there is a LONG way to go for football to be overtaken as the most participated in High School sport, and it would take a full on collapse of the sport to cease having D1 and NFL football.
Estimated probability of competing in college athletics
Estimated probability of competing in college athletics
www.ncaa.org
more baseless assumptions...
you assume that at some future date, the only outcome will be uw and uo to go to the big and us somehow begging the truck stop 12 to please baby give us another chance.
you assume that the pac pulled sdsu's offer but we do not know that.
you assume you know the landscape of the tv and sports market in what is a highly fluid environment and could change dramatically.
it is just and i think perhaps more likely that the next round of reshuffling is bigger than the big and sec. there are a whole lot of programs with money, power, and prestige outside those 2 existing conferences. and there are natural incentives at work among those conferences to not **** with everyone else when the next round happens.
i am almost wishing isu was the 5th down game at this point so i could lather up a hate for isu, but honestly you guys are mostly irrelevant. you aren't driving the train and in the next round, you won't have any voice in the outcome. ... just like every other time.
What did Brian know, and when did he know it? Is the Daily Camera driving the move to the BigXII?
hah. Brian is filling the summer news hole with spicy content from the one group that wants to talk about the P12 more than any other.
Shocking that a sport with 60+ man rosters would have the same participation rate as three sports with 15-20 man rosters.
Back when I was in HS, I think it was more than that. We had enough football participation to have full rosters for freshman, JV and varsity teams. Other sports were thin below the varsity level with guys having to play on more than one team.
Agreed. I’m not willing to research it, but I’d assume the overall participation rate in football is and has been declining for many years. My point above was to show that comparing the participation rate of football to another sport you should factor in roster sizes.
My hs sucked at football. Probably why we had about 35 guys on our varisty team and had no jv squad.
I mean, whether participation has been declining or not, the point is that participation in football still dwarfs that of other major sports and the pool of which colleges and ultimately the NFL has to pull from will remain robust, short of a complete collapse of the sport.