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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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ahoelsken
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Are you drunk?
And angry
chitownbuff
Club Member
The point I'm addressing and spitballing is that if:
1. The Pac stays together; and,
2. The Pac stays at the current 10 for football; and,
3. The media deal were to leave PACN in place as its own entity; then,
4. CU would own 10% of a broadcast network for college sports it would need to grow without being able to add football content; so,
5. Becoming in-market in states which are not currently in-market but have passionate hoops fans, iconic arenas, respected tradition, would not increase travel and other operating costs for the non-football sports offerings, increase the total volume of original content on the network, and pass the academic peer sniff test by being R1 institutions...
might create incremental growth for that network and overall revenue for members while maintaining conference identity.
Or the numbers wouldn't work to make it worthwhile for the Pac-10 or the deal would not work for the invitees or any of the assumed variables in this hypothetical change to render this moot.
1. The Pac stays together; and,
2. The Pac stays at the current 10 for football; and,
3. The media deal were to leave PACN in place as its own entity; then,
4. CU would own 10% of a broadcast network for college sports it would need to grow without being able to add football content; so,
5. Becoming in-market in states which are not currently in-market but have passionate hoops fans, iconic arenas, respected tradition, would not increase travel and other operating costs for the non-football sports offerings, increase the total volume of original content on the network, and pass the academic peer sniff test by being R1 institutions...
might create incremental growth for that network and overall revenue for members while maintaining conference identity.
Or the numbers wouldn't work to make it worthwhile for the Pac-10 or the deal would not work for the invitees or any of the assumed variables in this hypothetical change to render this moot.
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So…. We are into PAC12 media days, right?
No clue as to what media has an interest in our rights? No numbers?
Bueller? Bueller?
No clue as to what media has an interest in our rights? No numbers?
Bueller? Bueller?
241Volcanos
Well-Known Member
Canada and Mexico would be a coup.
Umm....
As Colorado eyes an exit, Pac-12 commish urges patience on TV deal
The Pac-12 still doesn't have a TV deal to announce and at least one member school is a bit flighty about that.
sports.yahoo.com
DiStefano told the Denver Post that figures for a potential TV contract were expected to be shared Thursday.
That was never the case, according to those within the league.
Why did DiStefano make such a comment? Was he using it as a tool to put pressure on the commissioner? Some believe that to be the case.
Impatience is growing.
“We need to see numbers,” said one conference official.
Didn't I mention this yesterday right off the bat? Some were laughing at the idea. Hmmm...
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BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
Big Jim
WTF?
B12 already has their flag planted in Mexico. Looks like it’s Canada for the P12.
this is why CU had to create optionality by dancing with the b12. oregon wants to be usc. oregon is not usc. they are getting that message delivered to them by the media, the conferences, and by programs like ours.
stay or go, we will be fine.
I mean, I agree with Oregon. Unless there is a substantial monetary incentive to add SDSU and SMU (or any others), I don’t see any upside in it. This conference is temporary so why add more mouths to feed in recruiting and on the field?
This could be a big deal.
247sports.com
"I'm not going to tell you where our media deals are coming in," Kliavkoff told 247Sports at Pac-12's media day. "It will be enough for them to all sign their grant of rights. That's the important kind of milestone."
Other TV partners have reportedly entered the fold in recent weeks as discussions for the Pac-12's media rights stretches into an 11th month. FOX is among them, according to sources.
Hearing that FOX wants Washington and Oregon and that FS1 late night slot
is one way they can get them. Would this be enough to keep the PAC together?
Pac-12 commissioner: 10 remaining members will not leave conference
The Pac-12 is nearing an announcement of a new, critical media rights deal that commissioner George Kliavkoff believes will keep his membership happy in 2024 and beyond, he tells 247Sports.
247sports.com
"I'm not going to tell you where our media deals are coming in," Kliavkoff told 247Sports at Pac-12's media day. "It will be enough for them to all sign their grant of rights. That's the important kind of milestone."
Other TV partners have reportedly entered the fold in recent weeks as discussions for the Pac-12's media rights stretches into an 11th month. FOX is among them, according to sources.
Hearing that FOX wants Washington and Oregon and that FS1 late night slot
is one way they can get them. Would this be enough to keep the PAC together?
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Big Jim
WTF?
This could be a big deal.
Pac-12 commissioner: 10 remaining members will not leave conference
The Pac-12 is nearing an announcement of a new, critical media rights deal that commissioner George Kliavkoff believes will keep his membership happy in 2024 and beyond, he tells 247Sports.
"I'm not going to tell you where our media deals are coming in," Kliavkoff told 247Sports at Pac-12's media day. "It will be enough for them to all sign their grant of rights. That's the important kind of milestone."
Other TV partners have reportedly entered the fold in recent weeks as discussions for the Pac-12's media rights stretches into an 11th month. FOX is among them, according to sources.
Hearing that FOX wants Washington and Oregon and that FS1 late night slot
is one way they can get them. Would this be enough to keep the PAC together?
After 13 months of being told FOX is not at the table.
Dennis Dodd triggered in 3, 2, 1This could be a big deal.
Pac-12 commissioner: 10 remaining members will not leave conference
The Pac-12 is nearing an announcement of a new, critical media rights deal that commissioner George Kliavkoff believes will keep his membership happy in 2024 and beyond, he tells 247Sports.
"I'm not going to tell you where our media deals are coming in," Kliavkoff told 247Sports at Pac-12's media day. "It will be enough for them to all sign their grant of rights. That's the important kind of milestone."
Other TV partners have reportedly entered the fold in recent weeks as discussions for the Pac-12's media rights stretches into an 11th month. FOX is among them, according to sources.
Hearing that FOX wants Washington and Oregon and that FS1 late night slot
is one way they can get them. Would this be enough to keep the PAC together?
Wouldn't Zaga still be cheaper than a MWC school when it comes to conference payouts?
Taking UNM & UNLV out of the MWC could be enough to cause the MWC to invite North & South Dakota State and with either team, going through a MWC schedule is much easier to get an automatic playoff bid than in the P12. Some of those years, that could cost the P12 not only a playoff spot but also playoff money. We just have to be careful in how we weaken the MWC. In that case, we just take one school and that would be UNLV.
They weren't.
Will be curious if they are out barging bin shopping or if they can come to the table with the needed $.
This could be a big deal.
Pac-12 commissioner: 10 remaining members will not leave conference
The Pac-12 is nearing an announcement of a new, critical media rights deal that commissioner George Kliavkoff believes will keep his membership happy in 2024 and beyond, he tells 247Sports.
"I'm not going to tell you where our media deals are coming in," Kliavkoff told 247Sports at Pac-12's media day. "It will be enough for them to all sign their grant of rights. That's the important kind of milestone."
Other TV partners have reportedly entered the fold in recent weeks as discussions for the Pac-12's media rights stretches into an 11th month. FOX is among them, according to sources.
Hearing that FOX wants Washington and Oregon and that FS1 late night slot
is one way they can get them. Would this be enough to keep the PAC together?
Interesting quote below:
The scenario did not take them for football. They'd be football-only in the MWC as I believe Hawaii is.
Pac-12 may move to 8-game league schedule in 2024
The Pac-12 has formed a committee to explore whether to stick with a nine-game schedule or shift to an eight-game slate for the league starting in 2024, commissioner George Kliavkoff tells 247Sports.
247sports.com
P12 might be going back to eight game conference schedules next season. GK talked about a pod system and that was before USC & UCLA left. This is pretty workable since we could see three different pods in the P10:
-NW schools.
-4C schools.
-Cali schools.
There will be one trip to the Bay Area every year so we have ourselves a Cali trip. We would face all the other 4C schools and three out of four NW schools.
Maybe this is one reason why the money isn't there for the PAC. But would that mean better CFP chances every year which leads to more CFP money?
I do not think the MWC will be amenable to that. Independence in football is a much more likely outcome in that case along with a scheduling alliance with the PAC.
That would reduce the MWC to 9 full time members. Hawaii is interested in a full MWC membership and then the MWC invites Gonzaga for all sports except football. That might be enough to keep NDSU & SoDSU in FCS football for the time being but the CUSA could be interested.
That math doesn't workPac-12 may move to 8-game league schedule in 2024
The Pac-12 has formed a committee to explore whether to stick with a nine-game schedule or shift to an eight-game slate for the league starting in 2024, commissioner George Kliavkoff tells 247Sports.
P12 might be going back to eight game conference schedules next season. GK talked about a pod system and that was before USC & UCLA left. This is pretty workable since we could see three different pods in the P10:
-NW schools.
-4C schools.
-Cali schools.
There will be one trip to the Bay Area every year so we have ourselves a Cali trip. We would face all the other 4C schools and three out of four NW schools.
Maybe this is one reason why the money isn't there for the PAC. But would that mean better CFP chances every year which leads to more CFP money?
Preferable to a nine game conference schedule in the Truck Stop Conference.
For 8 conference games, the cleanest setup is 12 teams with 2 divisions. 14 with 3 fixed rivals also works. So I think if K is talking an 8 game schedule then he's talking expansion.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Hawaii is football only. Everything else is Big West-their AD is flat broke.
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