And if they do go to 9, ESPN can kiss goodbye it's SEC-ACC annual matchups played by UGA, SC, UF and UK. There's no way they lock in 10 games like that every year.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Please let it happen if only for the reason that I already constantly think Clemson is in the SEC anyway and have to keep reminding myself that the ACC actually still does exist and that Clemson is a member.
ESPN won’t care. The only thing ESPN cares about is the SEC.
I do however think that ESPN v Fox is an interesting sub plot to the brewing SEC v B1G showdown.
ESPN will care. Rivalry games command prime broadcast slots and get ratings.
GoBuffs08
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Does espn have any control of the GOR for ACC that they can just let a team go? ACC lets FSU and Clemson out they got to let anyones else that wants to leave. Miami and UNC to B1G. Those 4 leave and ACC no better than the Pac was 7 days ago.
Depends on what they replace it with. I think Georgia v another big name team is a bigger draw than Georgia v GA Tech.
Fox is the primary rights holder for B1G, but they do split with CBS and NBC. There is demand by multiple networks and streamers for a piece of CFB, which is why I believe they will all wise up to the fact that coming together and selling all the rights on the open market like the NFL does is where the most money will be made. It's so obvious what needs to happen for the benefit of everyone, but the egos of a few programs could stop it from happening.
Fred 2
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Stop people sdsu again adds nothin!
No. The ACC owns each schools media rights. ESPN just pays the bills
Technically no, practically? I’d be inclined to say yes as both the ACC and SEC are exclusively on ESPN once the new contracts start.
By all you mean who exactly? The B1G and the SEC?
Indirectly
The GoR is with the ACC conference and it's members.
The GoR has a term that references "ability to fulfill the ESPN contract"
So if ESPN relaxes it's required commits to the ACC, it enables the conference to release a member.
I would argue it needs to be the entire P5/4 to get the most total revenue.
Listen to the below from about 45 minutes on. They discuss the idea that what makes CFB popular is having an entire country of fans involved, even if most will never compete for a national championship.
The entire pod is great, actually, but I found the last 15-20 minutes the most agreeable.
I wouldn't be so sure of that because SC and Florida both have other P5 opponents this season and also have in recent years. Georgia played Oregon last year and also played a recent home-and-home with ND. Kentucky not so much but I would think they would bow to the state pressure of keeping their in-state rival on the schedule. Although that series doesn't have a very long history.
Of course the problem here is that if ESPN graciously allows the ACC (an ESPN conference) to let FSU and Clemson leave for the SEC (an ESPN conference) without any repercussions that makes it significantly easier for ESPN to kick the ACC to the curb the first chance they get as they just got picked clean for its two most worthwhile members. I wouldn’t trust ESPN and ESPN’s long term intentions if I was the ACC.
Max Olsen and Ari Wasserman are primary, but Nicole Auerbach and others also contribute. It’s the old Andy Staples pod through The Athletic but rebranded when Andy left
Just like reading these words.
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Conference realignment winners, losers: Oregon comes up short in Big Ten move, Arizona fits in Big 12
The latest round of realignment has turned college sports on its head, but not everyone is coming out a winner here
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I just can’t stand Mandel. Arrogant prick.
ESPN cares very little about the ACC. FSU, Miami, Clemson & North Carolina give them good numbers for football. It's very nice to have Notre Dame content. And basketball, especially UNC-Duke, gives them solid programming content outside of football season. But the rest doesn't draw any better for football than a 3rd tier SEC football game or its Big 12 content & non-football is only worth $6-8M in total per school.
fundamental changes are going to occur, after this round, because it is quite clear the negative impacts to humans outweigh the benefits of cash to the networks.
i used to think that college football players needed a union and the ability to collectively bargain. i now think that all D1 athletes need a union.
the welfare and safety and academic goals of the student-athlete are completely obliterated by this stuff.
i heard a guy say that they should disconnect football from all the other sports. i am not sure i can disagree more with this sentiment. football revenue creates and sustains multiple sports and allows us to try to close the gender gap. this is actually a good and positive mission.
these are not semi-pros and this is not a purely economic analysis.
1. college athletes unite and negotiate.
2. universities agree to a single bargaining voice (and to look after the fairness and interest of the athletic mission).
3. wait until the rights start to run out and wait some more-- when everyone meaningful is a free agent again, drop the ****ing hammer of the gods on the networks.
we CAN get back to something that makes sense. the thing about all this-- we are headed to a more siloed viewing world via streaming. this should enhance and not hurt regionalism and rivalries.
i used to think that college football players needed a union and the ability to collectively bargain. i now think that all D1 athletes need a union.
the welfare and safety and academic goals of the student-athlete are completely obliterated by this stuff.
i heard a guy say that they should disconnect football from all the other sports. i am not sure i can disagree more with this sentiment. football revenue creates and sustains multiple sports and allows us to try to close the gender gap. this is actually a good and positive mission.
these are not semi-pros and this is not a purely economic analysis.
1. college athletes unite and negotiate.
2. universities agree to a single bargaining voice (and to look after the fairness and interest of the athletic mission).
3. wait until the rights start to run out and wait some more-- when everyone meaningful is a free agent again, drop the ****ing hammer of the gods on the networks.
we CAN get back to something that makes sense. the thing about all this-- we are headed to a more siloed viewing world via streaming. this should enhance and not hurt regionalism and rivalries.
I don’t know the history of NASCAR but a lot of comparisons being made to how this same kind of thing killed the popularity and turned it into a regional only sport.
Here's the thing. Everyone at these universities fundamentally agrees with you. And it all breaks down as soon as a rival school can build nicer facilities than yours and pay its coordinators what you'd been paying your HC out of media dollars while gaining additional recruiting advantage over you because its games are on ABC while you are playing on ESPN+.
BlackNGold
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NASCAR was really cool for about a minute and they tried to cater to all the potential new fans but in the process alienated their core fan base. When the new crowd all turned to the next cool thing they discovered their former fan base had also moved on.
Anything is a butt plug if you're brave enough.
Correct, but when UCSD starts playing football, it will basically be USC and UCLA redux.
Basically the old guard of drivers retired out of the sport and as a result sponsorships dried up as a result. The sport became regionalized and previously closed racetracks in the SE reopened. That’s why the demise of the PAC could slow the regionalization of college football. If all the power conferences were more nation wide, the east coast would have to start paying attention to the west coast for sports. That is why I’m not saddened for the demise of the PAC and possibly the ACC. SEC could be targeted in the next round for expansion further west.