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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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This explains it well from someone who knows both NASCAR and CFB well. The Cliff notes version is what @BlackNGold said.
jumped ship
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love that he goes by Dr. Crow, was a professor in technology policy, yet seriously said "we were offered a media contract by the Apple corporation which is a technological 23rd century Star Trek thing" – when referring to the concept of live streaming and replay of games
he's definitely working for the right school
I think technically it has to be flanged.
Javelin catcher, amirite!
I am gonna add... with medium certainty, that a lot of Tulane students are wealthy suburbanites from major cities across the US. I believe that their student body is comprised of many big cities... mostly NY and the Northeast. Their ties to football are not strong. I have family that goes there and the fathers that "pay the tuition" seem to be more interested than their children.....
just sayin'
DO NOT WANT.
I think TV will make them. I really believe that the days of Penn State scheduling Akron are over soon. Especially since one loss wont prevent you from making a 12 team tournament at the end of the season.
Democrat.
Guess they don't want any gumbo.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url...ved=0CA0QjRxqFwoTCNjMg6udzYADFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ
Not a hater.... just don't want to add programs that I feel are inferior (purely subjective).
Look at how full their 30,000 person stadium is.
WANT
I’ve been to a couple of jungle parties at the Beta house. Fun.
Tulane would be a very poor add to the Big 12.
BlackNGold
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I don't know much about Tulane but they did have 2 of the highest rated TV games for G5 schools last year.
BlackNGold
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I think all the big moves are over for the moment. The PAC12 needs to spend some time figuring out the best move for the 4 remaining schools. I don't see an ACC merger as bringing any value and if you are worried about Travel cost it makes absolutely no sense.
I am not sure what happens with Stanford and Cal. It appears they think conferences like the MWC and even the Big 12 are beneath them Academically, especially Stanford.
The PAC12 name has more Brand value so maybe they could roll the MWC into the PAC. They would need to sit down with media partner(s) and see what they can negotiate for media rights going forward. The hindrance is the MWC only gets about $4 Million per school in media rights and that is running another 3 seasons. With Media rights declining, they may not find much appetite for increasing the payout.
I am not sure what happens with Stanford and Cal. It appears they think conferences like the MWC and even the Big 12 are beneath them Academically, especially Stanford.
The PAC12 name has more Brand value so maybe they could roll the MWC into the PAC. They would need to sit down with media partner(s) and see what they can negotiate for media rights going forward. The hindrance is the MWC only gets about $4 Million per school in media rights and that is running another 3 seasons. With Media rights declining, they may not find much appetite for increasing the payout.
Why are we looking at what would be a good addition to the B12 (as if we really know what that even means) instead of looking at what would be a good addition for the fans?
66BUFF
FTW
It’s just one guy, but that’s just dumb.
We are sitting here bitching about the ****ty locations in the B12, and there’s a really great location in the middle of our area.
You are all morons. I want college football to be fun again.
I simply separate my personal travel plans from my thoughts about conference alignment.
(As an aside: My wife is from New Orleans and went to Tulane. My eldest brother went there too.)
Seeing a lot of these sentiments from OSU fans. That program has one 8+ win season in the last decade and all of the sudden they're some elite program. I'm fine with these stupid ****s being left out
Was coming to post this. Long tweet. If you dont want to click in….
Interesting post-mortem on the Pac-12 media deal saga by Ourand of SBJ
Summary of media offers from this & other sources:
1) Amazon:
“Never submitted a bid”
2) NBC:
“Never submitted a bid.” This despite the Pac-12 approaching them 3 different times per Ross Dellenger. Hey! “No means No,” right?
3) Fox:
$3.5-4M/team AAV for “13 B-package football games per yr” (likely late windows FS1 content)
4) CBS:
only recent offer was for 5 total Basketball games per year; no bid amount given.
5) ESPN:
-recent offer: “small bid for Pac-12 rights” (this has been widely rumored to be $9M/team AAV for the Tier 1 content)
-original ESPN offer, during the exclusive negotiating window over a yr ago, was a “significant package.” Others described this as “the same deal the Big12 later accepted”… I assume this is the ~$20M AAV/team that ESPN will paying the Big12. Fox would have likely paid for FB/BB content as well, but since their inventory is more BB-heavy, I doubt Fox would have paid the $11.7M AAV to the Pac-12 that they are paying the Big12 who offers better BB brands & more inventory. I’d assume any combined offer would have been around $27-8M/yr, but was Fox or the Pac-12 themselves not willing to “play ball” with one another from the start? Was the relationship too damaged due to Fox being viewed as complicit with the B1G’s poaching of USC/UCLA, and swooning over Ore/UW?
6) CW:
Not mentioned in article but had been in negotiations/discussions at least once. Unclear if they submitted a bid.
7) AppleTV+:
$23M/team AAV with all streaming content (no linear) but subscription incentives to boost payouts beyond that baseline
This last one was the best they could do, was presented to the presidents last week, and was the straw that finally broke the camel’s back.
Anything else I missed folks?
I really don't care much one way or the other about OSU. They are getting the shaft, but, for whatever reason, nobody outside of Corvallis cares. Thems the breaks.