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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Yes, but that is ancient and non-relevant history. At one time our biggest rivals were Colorado School of Mines, DU and Colorado College. I am probably one of the oldest members on this board but the Utah rivalry was before my time.

IMO, you cannot manufacturer a rival. A rival is a team that the very mention of their name is like someone's finger nails on a blackboard, super annoying. Nebraska and Oklahoma did that for me back in the old Big 8 days - I remember in 1971 season when we ended the season ranked #3 behind Nebraska and OU, that was our best year before coach MAC and we still were behind them.
You’re 36???
 
All these reports about the ACC adding Cal, Stanford and SMU....

That would make 17 full time members. It sure seems that Notre Dame joining for Football almost has to be part of this. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
Yeah sounds like Cal, Stanford and SMU going to the ACC. Another conference pulling a G5 program in a talent rich area into a P4 conference for no reason, and a very wealthy G5 program at that. One more mouth to feed in recruiting.

Also, neither ESPN or Fox cared to pull together $31m/school for the Pac 10, and all of the sudden 8 of the 10 members are about to get paid that much by those two networks anyways.

Realignment is stupid. The adults in charge of all the different entities involved have failed.
 
I'm seeing more people around college athletics (Presidents, Regents, Coaches, Athletics Directors) make comments to the effect of them pausing for air, looking at the current situation with shock, and are asking themselves "wtf did we just do?"

One of the Regents at Michigan went very public with a tirade and the culpability of (paraphrasing): "The Presidents gave all their power to Conference Commissioners and they gave it all to Network Executives."
 
I'm seeing more people around college athletics (Presidents, Regents, Coaches, Athletics Directors) make comments to the effect of them pausing for air, looking at the current situation with shock, and are asking themselves "wtf did we just do?"

One of the Regents at Michigan went very public with a tirade and the culpability of (paraphrasing): "The Presidents gave all their power to Conference Commissioners and they gave it all to Network Executives."

Swarbrick on the DP Show... He would like to see... wait for it... More regional scheduling
 
Not a very good look for the conference: WVU cuts 32 programs, no more foreign languages. Sad stuff.

Well, the students accepted there have a hard enough time speaking the English language so world languages have to got to be a real stretch.
 
All of this turmoil and money spent to cut Oregon State and WSU by elevating a bunch of G5s lol
It's got to be an end game of turning CFB and CBB into sports leagues under network control with NFL & NBA operating structures.

I bet we next see realignment related to CBB. They'll make it so the Big East expands into a national conference by poaching the most valuable properties (VCU, Gonzaga, Dayton, St. Louis, others).
 
Yeah sounds like Cal, Stanford and SMU going to the ACC. Another conference pulling a G5 program in a talent rich area into a P4 conference for no reason, and a very wealthy G5 program at that. One more mouth to feed in recruiting.

Also, neither ESPN or Fox cared to pull together $31m/school for the Pac 10, and all of the sudden 8 of the 10 members are about to get paid that much by those two networks anyways.

Realignment is stupid. The adults in charge of all the different entities involved have failed.

Assuming this happens I read that SMU won't get any conference media revenue for the first 7 years they're in the ACC. Plus they're going to have to pay to get in which all seems crazy to me but I guess they're looking real long term.
 
Assuming this happens I read that SMU won't get any conference media revenue for the first 7 years they're in the ACC
That's cause they're rich as **** and their boosters said they would subsidize the program's financial needs if they get the P5 invite. Also, Stanford and Cal would both get lesser shares, so the ACC is getting "in footprint" carriage fees for the ACC Network for the Bay Area and DFW markets, while paying those programs a fraction of what they are bringing.

This, in theory, is meant to be able to satisfy FSU, Clemson, UNC, etc by paying them more.

It's all so ****ing stupid.
 
That's cause they're rich as **** and their boosters said they would subsidize the program's financial needs if they get the P5 invite. Also, Stanford and Cal would both get lesser shares, so the ACC is getting "in footprint" carriage fees for the ACC Network for the Bay Area and DFW markets, while paying those programs a fraction of what they are bringing.

This, in theory, is meant to be able to satisfy FSU, Clemson, UNC, etc by paying them more.

It's all so ****ing stupid.

Yea the ACC would get like an extra $70 million which they're still deciding on how that would be distributed. Sounds like it would be based on success. Now they just need to get 1 of the 4 to change their vote to yes, the 3 above plus NC State.
 
Lol, Cal and Stanford to the ACC is so non-sensical

Yes it is, but Cal and Stanford are desperate for a P4 landing spot and the ACC would get them on the cheap. For football it's manageable but for all the non-revenue sports is where it's really a problem, basketball too.
 
The only thing more non sensical than USC and UCLA going to the B1G is for Oregon and Washington to also go to the B1G, while the Bay Area schools go to the ACC. Completely asinine
Idk man. Nothing screams college sports like Rutgers v. USC or UCLA v Maryland.


How can you look away from the rivalry of Stanford and North Carolina State?? Cal v wake forest is an all timer!
 
Yes it is, but Cal and Stanford are desperate for a P4 landing spot and the ACC would get them on the cheap. For football it's manageable but for all the non-revenue sports is where it's really a problem, basketball too.
M2 landing spot. M2.

Power = money
The SEC and B1G = money = power
And the ACC (And bigxii) ≠ money ≠ power
The G5 never ≠ money

Therefore, the SEC and B1G = P2
The ACC and bigxii = M2
G5 = G5
 
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So Cal and Stanford get to decide if staying in P5 is worth doubling their travel expenses, and subsidizing Clemson and FSU while being a perennial ACC doormat. Brutal.

A fairly significant portion of the $70 million the ACC would get would be earmarked to help with Cal and Stanfords travel expenses.
 
A fairly significant portion of the $70 million the ACC would get would be earmarked to help with Cal and Stanfords travel expenses.
Would it? The BIG isn’t helping the LA or PNW schools with travel as far as I know. But if that’s true, then I really don’t see the value to the rest of the league.
 
The only thing more non sensical than USC and UCLA going to the B1G is for Oregon and Washington to also go to the B1G, while the Bay Area schools go to the ACC. Completely asinine
So at the end of the day, 4/12 Pac-12 members were valuable enough to be admitted to the B1G, 4/12 to the Big 12, and 2/12 possibly to the ACC today. That was the value of Pac-12 assets but the conference couldn't find a media deal worth more than the Big 12. That can only be explained through mismanagement and self-inflicted wounds.
 
Just saw an Awful Announcing article saying that Cal, Stanford, and SMU could be joining the ACC for just football, men's basketball, and women's basketball. I wonder where the other sports would go to...Mountain Pacific Sports Federation?
 
So at the end of the day, 4/12 Pac-12 members were valuable enough to be admitted to the B1G, 4/12 to the Big 12, and 2/12 possibly to the ACC today. That was the value of Pac-12 assets but the conference couldn't find a media deal worth more than the Big 12. That can only be explained through mismanagement and self-inflicted wounds.
It feels like espn and fox really put in the old college try to consolidate brands and not have to pay for the undesirables, but every realignment decision was made in a vacuum from two different parties with different agendas; the networks and conferences.
 
So at the end of the day, 4/12 Pac-12 members were valuable enough to be admitted to the B1G, 4/12 to the Big 12, and 2/12 possibly to the ACC today. That was the value of Pac-12 assets but the conference couldn't find a media deal worth more than the Big 12. That can only be explained through mismanagement and self-inflicted wounds.
Doesn’t it likely have to do with each network being so heavily invested already in other conferences? It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to add a little extra content in major tv markets to their existing operation than to commit to produce, televise, schedule around and promote content for a whole other league?
 
Think this is the right thread for this ...

Jay Bilas on his soap box again and while this schtick of his gets annoying he makes some interesting points here
I find Jay to be pretty good at analyzing situations. I liked his analysis and his open letter during the Duke Lacrosse issue in 2006.
 
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