And that’s our resident history teacher everyone!
And that’s our resident history teacher everyone!
Which still relegates us to the Not P2 level. Vanderbilt and Northwestern meanwhile are happy to bank closer to $100m for sucking.Except reports are ESPN offered around $30 million early and the idots running the P12 said we want $50.
Pac could be here with a tv contract similar to the B12 but leadership went full retard.
It wouldn’t have mattered. The conference was never making more than $31m/school once SC and UCLA left. Had they had this season 5 years ago, maybe SC and UCLA stay and the P12 can pull a contract more closely aligned with the P2Which still relegates us to the Not P2 level. Vanderbilt and Northwestern meanwhile are happy to bank closer to $100m for sucking.
Its a shame the P12 didnt have this season last year. But its the fault of the P12 leadership for collectively putting academic utopia bs ahead of a quality football product for a decade. Thats the real story in this mess. They made GKs job a lot harder with that stupidity.
To be fair, he gets high a lot.And that’s our resident history teacher everyone!
Maybe a better statement might be that Fox and ESPN didn‘t want 5 power leagues. I think they actually would have preferred the B12 die, but the P12 refused to deliver the killing blow over academic arrogance and the B12 was willing to do a deal at a price the networks were willing to pay.I don't know man.
I feel I've been following realignment as close as most AB members for the last 10+ years and it's not that simple to my head.
If you feel inclined, I'd appreciate you posting sources and walking us through your logic that led to this conclusion.
That's a helluva claim to make with no sources or stated rationale.
I think that the tv networks didn’t want both the Pac-12 and the Big12 to survive at the $$ level they offered. Big12 accepted first and the Pac-12 died. I don’t think there’s any scenario where both conferences survived.Except reports are ESPN offered around $30 million early and the idots running the P12 said we want $50.
Pac could be here with a tv contract similar to the B12 but leadership went full retard.
I think ESPN was surprised by Fox countering its UT-OU to the SEC by poaching the Pac-12 for USC-UCLA.Maybe a better statement might be that Fox and ESPN didn‘t want 5 power leagues. I think they actually would have preferred the B12 die, but the P12 refused to deliver the killing blow over academic arrogance and the B12 was willing to do a deal at a price the networks were willing to pay.
*kudosCudos to Nik for not stating speculation on this topic as certain fact
We should be able to really win the Big 12. TCU and UU will be our competition.
There has been 702 pages of speculation and maybe three posts with any kind of facts. Hence the thread title. Just sayinCudos to Nik for not stating speculation on this topic as certain fact
When I'm mistaken, I generally appreciate being tactfully corrected. Thanks.*kudos
I'm not normally the spelling czar here, but I actually think hokie will appreciate the correction.
And KSU raises a grubby wheat-stained paw.Don't forget UCF.
**** that Godforsaken hellhole for Hilton night managers.Don't forget UCF.
**** that Godforsaken hellhole for Hilton night managers.
*kudos
I'm not normally the spelling czar here, but I actually think hokie will appreciate the correction.
The whole conference is meh.**** that Godforsaken hellhole for Hilton night managers.
WTF? I don't understand how you could be a fan of college football and be glad that the P12 didn't survive. Even without USC/UCLA it's a hell of a lot more compelling than the truck stop conference we're going to play in starting next year.Good
WTF? I don't understand how you could be a fan of college football and be glad that the P12 didn't survive. Even without USC/UCLA it's a hell of a lot more compelling than the truck stop conference we're going to play in starting next year.
I want to be clear- this was the best business decision for CU, but the loss of the Pac12 and the matchups there in is sad for the sport.While the vast majority agree with you, the ship has sailed. The Truck Stop Conference won, people with teeth lost.
I prefer when you’re opaque.I want to be clear- this was the best business decision for CU, but the loss of the Pac12 and the matchups there in is sad for the sport.
WTF? I don't understand how you could be a fan of college football and be glad that the P12 didn't survive. Even without USC/UCLA it's a hell of a lot more compelling than the truck stop conference we're going to play in starting next year.
Sadly, they’ll be relegated to CU-CSU status. Maybe not right away but it’s inevitable. UW and Oregon can’t afford that kind of rivalry game in the pursuit of a cfp spot.I'm just thrilled that we got out of that conference for a number of reasons and find the Big 12 far more intriguing.
Those west coast schools will still be playing football although I do agree that it will be disappointing if some longtime rivalries go by the wayside. At least we know that many will continue and hopefully they can find a way to continue some others like UW-WSU and Oregon-OSU.
Sadly, they’ll be relegated to CU-CSU status. Maybe not right away but it’s inevitable. UW and Oregon can’t afford that kind of rivalry game in the pursuit of a cfp spot.
Yes. Lets further dillute the regular season for a playoff. When there are 24 teams playing in the playoff. only then will we have a true championship.Teams will have a little bigger margin of error with the 12 team playoff. But to your point as conferences get bigger some non-conference games will get squeezed out and rivalry games are never a gimme.
In shame?Rumors today that Clemson is leaving ACC and announcement “soon”
TCU.We should be able to really win the Big 12. TCU and UU will be our competition.
Wait, what??? I’m so confused by this.Which four? The four who are going to the XII or the four who are going to the Big 10?
The Big 12's two best teams right now are the ones who are joining the SEC. CU beat one of them already. There's nobody there who I look and say "thats a sure loss" like I did today. Prime instantly becomes a massive fish in a much smaller pond than what we have now next year.