ahoelsken
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The Big 12's top 2 are the two teams who are leaving. TCU may be the third best team in that league, and we have a win over them already. My bigger point is Prime is going to ****ing own that league.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Oh, gotcha. But that’s not what your sentence says.
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So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Florida State & North Carolina were the other universities that voted with Clemson against the ACC expansion. So, let's assume the SEC is going to match the B1G at 20 by adding 4.
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
Who would you pick for #4?
Miami is an all-time great and would freeze the B1G out of its territory. I think that's the move.
Sleeper pick I like for the SEC is VA Tech. Makes sense with the conference's regional/ cultural model, has a 65k stadium that makes it on par with the bottom third of the conference, expands footprint for recruiting & media into a big state, and I think could be a natural rivalry to develop with Tennessee. But if tv is driving the decision (and I'm sure that it mostly is), the SEC is going to be told in no uncertain terms that Miami is more valuable & marketable than every other ACC program besides Notre Dame & they'll get the call.
BerkeleyBuff
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Arky didn't try to block Texas. They welcomed Texas.Clemson Tigers
So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Was it Mizzou I was thinking of?
BerkeleyBuff
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I dunno about Mizzou. I just know Arky 1) wanted an actual rival back, 2) wanted to re-strengthen Texas recruiting ties and 3) makes more money from a Texas home game than any other SEC team, by a mile.
Miami is the easy pick, but being a bit contrarian, I’d at least consider Duke for the hoops cache it brings. One conference with Kentucky, North Carolina and Duke is formidable.Clemson Tigers
So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Florida State & North Carolina were the other universities that voted with Clemson against the ACC expansion. So, let's assume the SEC is going to match the B1G at 20 by adding 4.
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
Who would you pick for #4?
Miami is an all-time great and would freeze the B1G out of its territory. I think that's the move.
Sleeper pick I like for the SEC is VA Tech. Makes sense with the conference's regional/ cultural model, has a 65k stadium that makes it on par with the bottom third of the conference, expands footprint for recruiting & media into a big state, and I think could be a natural rivalry to develop with Tennessee. But if tv is driving the decision (and I'm sure that it mostly is), the SEC is going to be told in no uncertain terms that Miami is more valuable & marketable than every other ACC program besides Notre Dame & they'll get the call.
Big Jim
WTF?
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UVA gives access to a new state, the WMA media market and takes the Virginia AAU option away from the B1GClemson Tigers
So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Florida State & North Carolina were the other universities that voted with Clemson against the ACC expansion. So, let's assume the SEC is going to match the B1G at 20 by adding 4.
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
Who would you pick for #4?
Miami is an all-time great and would freeze the B1G out of its territory. I think that's the move.
Sleeper pick I like for the SEC is VA Tech. Makes sense with the conference's regional/ cultural model, has a 65k stadium that makes it on par with the bottom third of the conference, expands footprint for recruiting & media into a big state, and I think could be a natural rivalry to develop with Tennessee. But if tv is driving the decision (and I'm sure that it mostly is), the SEC is going to be told in no uncertain terms that Miami is more valuable & marketable than every other ACC program besides Notre Dame & they'll get the call.
Think CP and RG are reaching out and telling the SEC they're about to lock CP into a long term deal and they're going to bring 8m+ viewers to every game they play going forward?
They're dumb if they don't, but I don't see the SEC biting. They are still truly a regional conference, in the region that cares the most. I don't know that their members would welcome a team from way out here when they can bring in more revenue without massively growing their footprint.
If I'm forward looking and thinking about the future of college athletics, I see the Big 12 and ACC as being untenable, and maybe even the Big Ten. I think there will be a shift at some point to smaller more regional conferences again, even if it's only for non-money sports while leaving football and maybe men's basketball in the mega conferences. The SEC is best positioned to not have to deal with that drama.
I think that the SEC is set up to be able to go to 24 teams and look west after the next 4 for its final 4 adds.
4 regional scheduling pods of 6 teams each. So that's 5 fixed conference games and 1 opponent from each of the other 3 pods for that 8-game conference schedule they like and that in-state & border state rivalry atmosphere that is key to the conference culture.
(I like that model for the B1G, too, fwiw).
Big Jim
WTF?
I can see UNLV in the SEC too!!!
ahoelsken
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I know. I wrote that post stoned.
BlackNGold
Club Member
CFB playoffs are rethinking the new format and maybe only have the top 5 conferences with bids. So 5 automatic and 7 at large. Direct response to the PAC12 imploding.
As it should be. There shouldn't be any kind of loophole for keeping whatever the Pac 12 becomes a "power" conference.
There isn't such a loophole under the current plans. CFP Autobids go to the top ranked conference champs, not champs of specific conferences
But it was created initially to be 6 autobids because there were 5 Power conferences. Now that there is not legitimate Pac 12 as a Power conference, there shouldn't be 6 autobids
If SC and UCLA hadn’t jumped and the Pac had stayed in tact, I think the Pac’s position would’ve improved and I could see them having been able to get a $40 million per team deal. I will always lay the demise of the Pac at the feet of those pricks and I hope their move to the Big destroys them. CU had no option after they began the Pac’s demise.
Clemson’s lawyers about to get rich on the billables…Clemson Tigers
So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Florida State & North Carolina were the other universities that voted with Clemson against the ACC expansion. So, let's assume the SEC is going to match the B1G at 20 by adding 4.
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
Who would you pick for #4?
Miami is an all-time great and would freeze the B1G out of its territory. I think that's the move.
Sleeper pick I like for the SEC is VA Tech. Makes sense with the conference's regional/ cultural model, has a 65k stadium that makes it on par with the bottom third of the conference, expands footprint for recruiting & media into a big state, and I think could be a natural rivalry to develop with Tennessee. But if tv is driving the decision (and I'm sure that it mostly is), the SEC is going to be told in no uncertain terms that Miami is more valuable & marketable than every other ACC program besides Notre Dame & they'll get the call.
Yep. When your least valuable 2 programs are ranked in the Top 20 football poll and you've got exclusive home market for major CFB in 6 of the top 30 media markets you really shouldn't be folding. Easily could have added markets like #5 DFW, #7 H-town, #30 SD and #33 KC (thru TCU, UH, SDSU & KU). Tragic malpractice if the media companies would have wanted it.
Gonna laugh my dick off if SMU, Stanford, and Cal end up joining an ACC headlined by Duke, Louisville and Syracuse.Clemson Tigers
So, Clemson lawyers found a loophole (allegedly) and are out in the coming months. South Carolina wants to block them from the SEC, but they'll have as much luck as aTm & Arkansas did trying to block Texas.
Florida State & North Carolina were the other universities that voted with Clemson against the ACC expansion. So, let's assume the SEC is going to match the B1G at 20 by adding 4.
1. Clemson
2. Florida State
3. North Carolina
Who would you pick for #4?
Miami is an all-time great and would freeze the B1G out of its territory. I think that's the move.
Sleeper pick I like for the SEC is VA Tech. Makes sense with the conference's regional/ cultural model, has a 65k stadium that makes it on par with the bottom third of the conference, expands footprint for recruiting & media into a big state, and I think could be a natural rivalry to develop with Tennessee. But if tv is driving the decision (and I'm sure that it mostly is), the SEC is going to be told in no uncertain terms that Miami is more valuable & marketable than every other ACC program besides Notre Dame & they'll get the call.
Big Jim
WTF?
Mick Ronson
Well-Known Member
Hogs were tired of being the geographical outlier, political hamstrung school (like CU in the old Big XII, like Arky was in the SWC and SEC).....Texas has the resources and population density in Houston, Dallas, and overall brainwashed Texas rah for us mindset to make it work, but I think the future of OU in the SEC could be tough in the arms race of college football gone supernova with NIL.
if Venables stumbles this year......OU is the new 4-6 win Arkansas for a decade a decade ago and the Nebraska of these last many wonderful years.
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SEC - Regional - Oklahoma is adjacent to Colorado? I think Kansas and Colorado have the most chance to be in the SEC in 5 years, IF both can keep moving forward. Arizona also makes sense in a North - South SEC/BIG10 structure. The conferences though will not be in charge or running the super-league though
****. I want to be in that conference even less than I want to be in the Truck Stop conference. Your inviting confederate flags and the KKK to our campus.
The bigger malpractice occurred when the PAC12 could have become the PAC14 with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma.
Both schools wanted to come. Texas was looking for some preferential treatment but would have come as an equal partner, obnoxious but still manageable.
Reportedly some of the PAC12 Presidents were less than excited about bringing in what they saw as an academic inferior in Oklahoma but OU was working on upgrading their academic level and given some time AAU status.
Oklahoma is a Carnegie 1 Status university and has some significant boosters willing to fund the necessary advancements in research and post-graduate education to reach AAU status. OU has both a law school and medical school which tend to make attaining AAU status easier (and both while not elite are respected.)
The addition of OU and more importantly Texas to the PAC would have added a strong audience in each of those states with especially Texas having significant value to the broadcast Networks.
Those additions would have meant that a conference with UT, Oklahoma, USC/UCLA, UDub, the Zona schools, and more would have been a major force in a region encompassing a significant portion of the US population and a region with serious positive trends in market demographics.
There would have been no question about that conference having the value to the networks to demand a contract with payouts competitive with the B1G and the SEC.
Failing to bring in UT and OU then losing the LA schools killed that competitive value.
Are you really that clueless?