i so hope you are right.
there is, however, only one pretty girl left at the dance without a partner from the p12 and it is oregon. what you are suggesting would be about tv markets and timezones. please let it be so.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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there is, however, only one pretty girl left at the dance without a partner from the p12 and it is oregon. what you are suggesting would be about tv markets and timezones. please let it be so.
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the big difference here is that mizzou would need to be uninvited unless there are drastic changes to the core of sec and b1g concept, mizzou is in the boat unless the captains of their boat decide to join forces with the captains of another boat to form a super boat and i think that is unlikely.
cu is not in the boat. we are somewhere in the ocean struggling to keep ourselves from drowning. mizzou would need to get kicked to the curb, wed need to get invited in the first place.
I think Stanford would be of bigger interest to the BIG than UW. Oregon and the Tree seems to make more sense to me.
ahoelsken
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I tend to think its the inverse of last year. There are some fairly attractive brands among the 8-10 Pac 12 leftovers....more so than Cincinnati, UCF, and BYU. If this is just USC/UCLA, the entire Pac merges with the Big 12.
This isn't last year where Kliavkoff had his pick of the best looking ugly chick(s) of the Big 12 leftovers.
ACC has to be doing all they can to convince ND to join ASAP, otherwise they could see their remaininig schools of value looking to jump ship.
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naw. they already have enough "here for the academics" members who aren't + on tv ratings. there are literally thousands of usc and ucla alums up an down the coast. stanford and cal are ****ed.
acc isn't getting poached right now- remember grant of rights issues.
this is all about the remnants of the p12 and other schools in conferences with expiring GoRs.
also, this is why ND isn't going anywhere until their NBC deal is in play again.
NCTX
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And Duke is not remotely attractive. The UNC @ Duke basketball game this year - aka Ratface's last game at Cameron and one of the biggest regular season college basketball games ever - had 3.98M viewers. As a point of comparison, there were 42 regular season college football games in the 2022 season that had higher ratings.
any conference but the sec and b1g are facing an existential threat, i dont see any reason why notre dame should commit to the acc unless the sec and b1g both tell them to bolt, which i think is extremely unlikely as notre dame is one of the premier programs in the country that adds to the pile when you look at things objectively.
i dont see how this doesnt end with the b1g and sec remaining as the only 2 conferences of any sort of relevance and think this will inevitably end with a ~20 team super conference sooner or later
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I'm sure lawyers could find a way around it. Then there's always this scenario, and if the ACC loses members it's likely not losing just 1 school
Clemson football: Why ACC Grant of Rights might not mean as much as we think
The Clemson football program would have a major hurdle to overcome if it were to ever want to leave the ACC: The conference's Grant of Rights agreement.
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The B10 TV gods will slice and dice the Pac12 (grant money to new member schools) roughly along these value line....
Ranking the most-watched college football programs in 2021
The numbers next to each school indicate the average number of viewers per week for a 12-week season.- Ohio State — 5.22M
- Michigan — 4.74M
- Alabama — 4.64M
#10 Oregon — 2.57M
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#29 UCLA — 1.18M
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#32 Southern Cal — 1.11M
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#37 Utah — 994K
#38 Washington — 985K
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#46 Stanford — 778K
#47 Arizona State — 739K
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#59 Washington State — 483K
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#64 Colorado — 366K
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#67 Arizona — 337K
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#69 Oregon State — 321K
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#76 California — 222K
the GoRs are very solid after the poaching that occurred prior to the last round of tv contracts. nothing is happening to the acc other than it may pick up some dregs from conferences that are actually imploding.I'm sure lawyers could find a way around it. Then there's always this scenario, and if the ACC loses members it's likely not losing just 1 school
Clemson football: Why ACC Grant of Rights might not mean as much as we think
The Clemson football program would have a major hurdle to overcome if it were to ever want to leave the ACC: The conference's Grant of Rights agreement.
the rest is just not happening. any speculation to that end is not worth the time.
watch oregon. that is the next bigger trigger. IF the big wants them.
IF the big goes a diff direction than oregon and uw, THEN watch for what happens with the other p12 dregs AND possibly the big 12.
Medford M.
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College football about to implode in on itself. If a super league forms, there is no doubt in my mind that their viewership is going to plummet.
here is a guess: usc and ucla got announced today, among other reasons, because they got "full member" deals from big. any other additions are going to get reduced tv revenue sharing for a period of time (last time it was 6 years). oregon may not think it deserves a partial payout deal. it may try to do something else (like nd or a rebuilt p12 or something). CU, utah, ua, and asu would jump at a partial deal and say thank you but the negotiations are very likely to take longer and be more complicated than offering fulll bank to usc and ucla was.
How I imagine the positions of the TV networks in their negations with the new Pac-12:
If this was happening before the NIL became a thing, I'd believe what you are saying.
BerkeleyBuff
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Maybe. But the ACC media payout is so incredibly ****ty that a team still might listen and secure their spot for a few years down the road. If the ACC is making $30mil a year and the SEC and B1G teams are making $100mil a year, at some point you can afford to take the hit knowing you'll be secure in the long term.
White_Rabbit
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take cal with them
Did I miss something ? Where is Kansas leaving to?
Big East & going independent in football, allegedly.
this would be true if said teams were really driving the negotiations. they are not. 3 players: fox, nbc, and espn (unless something dramatic happens with a streaming Service or something.
said teams may want to chase the money but there is honor among thieves (the 3 aforementioned drivers of these negotiations) and GoRs are probably a line they won't cross.