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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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I would argue that’s not all that’s at work here. There are some existential and egotistical elements at work as well. USC and UT don’t need more money. They have as much as they could possibly spend. They need the accolades and attention that comes from competing at the highest level of college football, regardless of the consequences. This goes beyond a money grab, although I’ll agree that money is a contributing factor.
...it's gotta be the shoes.
they totally are. and so is wazzu.
If they are going to announce more PAC12 schools is has to be today.
I do believe that the PAC 12 is done as we know it
The TV Deal from the beginning were to radical and have caused this point in time to happen
I think that the PAC12 and BIG12 have to merge and start over with the new teams they have asked in as well as the rest of the PAC12 in a more modern structure that is ran sadly from another location, maybe even Denver or Houston
The TV Deal from the beginning were to radical and have caused this point in time to happen
I think that the PAC12 and BIG12 have to merge and start over with the new teams they have asked in as well as the rest of the PAC12 in a more modern structure that is ran sadly from another location, maybe even Denver or Houston
Maybe, or it could be the B1G is going after the CFL in a move northward.
OSU and WSU are either going to beg the Big12 or look to the MWC. Yikes.
Phoenix #11
Seattle #12
Denver #16
Portland #21
what kind of pull does this have ?
Egoistical elements, you say? Siri, what is capitalism?
i don't even want to dream at the possibility. it would be a ****ing miracle.
uw and oregon are going to be "first round" picks if the big goes bigger.
not us.
The entire organization of college football (and basketball) is going to be an amazing show for the next 2-3 decades as different schools figure out what kind of commitment they want to make to winning at what level.
Some are going to try to be active in the big time and discover that they don't have the stomach to have a freshman QB bringing in more money than the entire budget for some of their academic departments. Some are going to look at the inevitable media reports of recruits admitted who never bothered to go to a class in HS or who can't read or write after three years at ol' State U.
Others who were left out initially will want to do what they have to do to buy their ways in.
There are probably 20-25 schools that will spend whatever it takes and don't care about the appearances or compromises needed to win. The rest are going to go through a bunch of consideration about how badly they want to have the privilege of getting beaten up by the schools that will spend double or more what they can afford just to get a big paycheck.
What we can be sure of is that in the last 50 years the only time CU was willing to come close to that level of commitment was when Gee was running things.
Some are going to try to be active in the big time and discover that they don't have the stomach to have a freshman QB bringing in more money than the entire budget for some of their academic departments. Some are going to look at the inevitable media reports of recruits admitted who never bothered to go to a class in HS or who can't read or write after three years at ol' State U.
Others who were left out initially will want to do what they have to do to buy their ways in.
There are probably 20-25 schools that will spend whatever it takes and don't care about the appearances or compromises needed to win. The rest are going to go through a bunch of consideration about how badly they want to have the privilege of getting beaten up by the schools that will spend double or more what they can afford just to get a big paycheck.
What we can be sure of is that in the last 50 years the only time CU was willing to come close to that level of commitment was when Gee was running things.
There remains a possibility that the PAC remains a viable D-1 conference. It can withstand the loss of USC and UCLA (although admittedly that’s a huge blow), but lose UO, UW and one or two others and the entire league collapses. You can’t be a national conference when your best team is Utah.
Nah...Pac-12 GOR expires after the 2023 season so USC & UCLA and anyone who leaves won't have to pay one dime. This broke today because the B1G is finalizing their new media rights deal soon.
I think it is gone no matter what
Media is in shambles
Many western states are not fully supportive of this big time football anyway
I think it will be gone
Phoenix #11
Seattle #12
Denver #16
Portland #21
what kind of pull does this have ?
Way less than most people think.
The key independent variables here are general support for the football program and commitment to the football program at an institutional and fan level with the key dependent variable being (recent) football success, but the 2 independent ones are the key predictors for future success.
This... This also tells me that USC is the piece that adds revenue... UCLA is USC's sidepiece... also if UW and/or Oregon ADDED value they'd be part of this... they aren't. Adding them probably doesn't decrease a per team payout though, so they could be added later. They need USCs brand to maximize the payout from, probably, Fox.
That possibility is minimal. Any team outside the B1G and SEC will be so financially disadvantaged that it'll take a miracle to compete with those teams. Theoretically there always of course is a chance, particularly in a one and done playoff, but those probabilities are not going to be very high and not worth seriously talking about.
god why do you hate Buff fans so much? haven't we suffered enough? thank you for the miracle in michigan and the national championship and the heisman and the clip and the 5th down and 62-36. but have we not paid enough for those happy days?
please do not relegate us to the b12 or worse. it would be like pounding a case of PBR and hooking up with your now toothless ex.
thank you and sincerely,
every Buff fan over about age 35 (which is most all of us at this point).
please do not relegate us to the b12 or worse. it would be like pounding a case of PBR and hooking up with your now toothless ex.
thank you and sincerely,
every Buff fan over about age 35 (which is most all of us at this point).
UCLA is how Fox and the BIG are cutting the Pac 12 and competing networks, off at the knees. Without the LA market, the remaining PAC would be ****ed for media rights.
All true. But I go back to what I’d prefer college football to be, and I’m not all that upset at the idea that we would be in a watered down PAC 10 that is no longer able to compete financially. In fact, I think that’s the way this is all headed. There will be the B1G and the SEC. Each conference will have 20-24 members. Maybe CU is in that group, maybe not. I kind of think I’d rather they not be.
If USC & UCLA are planning on moving in 2024, they didn't have to do jack. That could mean they are moving next year.
I hate to say it, but I just want to see fun, competitive football again. Even IF we got in, and even IF we got management more committed to winning, we'd still be in a deep NIL hole. We'd still be watching CU get their asses kicked week in and week out.
