The committee will put the teams in that they want then cherry pick the data to justify teams in/out.I agree that the quadrant records are misused by people trying to compare teams against each other.
The quadrant system is helpful in showing how a team collected the points in the summation of their net ranking.
As a metric of determining big wins, I'd say it is worse than wins against the projected field. (although this gets tricky with bubble teams)
I think it should be used as a secondary or tertiary comparison after comparing net/kenpom/rpi and I would weight it similarly to how a team has done in the last ten games when making comparisons.
Hopefully the committee understands the data they have and how to use it.
Unfortunately I agree. NET seems to be out of vogue this year and it likely has a lot to do with the fact that it doesn't support the narrative they want.The committee will put the teams in that they want then cherry pick the data to justify teams in/out.
Does a team get a Quad 1 win when beating a team in range(1 -50 Neutral) when said opponent at the time was in range. (Utah #48) or does NET now consider Utah a Quad 2 win since they moved to #51 after the beat down?I find some of the reasoning around the NET to be highly circular, especially when it comes to talking about Quad 1 wins. CU is 26 in the NET, Seton Hall is 65. But East coast pundits who can't stay up late enough to watch West coast basketball will cry, Seton Hall has a 5-8 Quad 1 record vs CU's 2-5! But CU is 26 in NET!? If you beat CU at home you get a Quad 1 win. If you beat Seton Hall on a neutral that is a mere Quad 2. Other teams get more credit for beating CU!
IMO, overanalyzing the Quad 1's is dumb. It doesn't favor my preferred team this season. Any college team can have a bad night. Let the NET speak for itself and then look at the other factors, like injuries and how the team has performed recently. That is my pitch for why Colorado should be a 5 seed and all these bracketologists can suck it.
It's based on current rank.Does a team get a Quad 1 win when beating a team in range(1 -50 Neutral) when said opponent at the time was in range. (Utah #48) or does NET now consider Utah a Quad 2 win since they moved to #51 after the beat down?
The latter.Does a team get a Quad 1 win when beating a team in range(1 -50 Neutral) when said opponent at the time was in range. (Utah #48) or does NET now consider Utah a Quad 2 win since they moved to #51 after the beat down?
YesDoes a team get a Quad 1 win when beating a team in range(1 -50 Neutral) when said opponent at the time was in range. (Utah #48) or does NET now consider Utah a Quad 2 win since they moved to #51 after the beat down?
So basically, CU is rated high enough so that when any other team beats them, the win is considered a good win. But not rated high enough to consider themselves a good team.It's based on current rank.
CU would be a quad 1 win for any team on any court (H/N/A)So basically, CU is rated high enough so that when any other team beats them, the win is considered a good win. But not rated high enough to consider themselves a good team.
My tiny mind can’t grasp the concept.
CU has the worst of the 5 if your focus is on "who you played" and the best of the 5 if your focus is on "how you performed."Blind resume time! One of these teams is CU, the other 4 are the consensus 8 seeds according to Bracket Matrix
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Blind resume time! One of these teams is CU, the other 4 are the consensus 8 seeds according to Bracket Matrix
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The big killer was bad luck rather than intent. Nobody predicted that Miami would go from a Final Four last year to a losing record this year.I mean, SOS is pretty ****. that's where we're gonna get hosed if we lose tonight
"How you performed" is the best indicator of best team...right? Seems common sense to me.CU has the worst of the 5 if your focus is on "who you played" and the best of the 5 if your focus is on "how you performed."
For once, I think the appeal of Colorado basketball might work in our favor. Having 3 draft picks, one a lottery pick, another a near conference POY, and a transfer who had a huge/memorable tourney performance against Arizona all make for good TV.Honestly, I think if the committee just goes by who they think belongs where and only looks at the data when it's tight, I think we're doing okay. We're on a 7 game win streak (hopefully 8 after tonight), we've got an exciting team, a great point guard, and even a lottery pick on our team. We've got a lot of pluses on our side if you're looking at the intangibles.
ETA - also, if they're looking for teams that are able to compete and win games, as opposed to who should be rewarded for having a good season, we're also in good stead. I think a ton of the bracketologists go by rewarding teams for having a good season.
Yeah but sEtOn HaLlFor once, I think the appeal of Colorado basketball might work in our favor. Having 3 draft picks, one a lottery pick, another a near conference POY, and a transfer who had a huge/memorable tourney performance against Arizona all make for good TV.
Absolutely not. A stronger indicator is being an average or even bad team in the Big 10."How you performed" is the best indicator of best team...right? Seems common sense to me.
I'm confused. We're these prognostications made at the beginning of the day?I'll look forward to Lunardi's expert opinions this weekend on the relative quality of the western teams.
He's an idiotI'm confused. We're these prognostications made at the beginning of the day?
Was that a typo saying Colorado moves to "first four out" with a win, and are unchanged with a loss. That wouldn't make any sense.