ahoelsken
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...aluating-job-security-of-all-129-fbs-coaches/
He has MM at a 4....
He has MM at a 4....
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4-Start winning now. Sounds about right.
ahoelsken
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I think the only thing that keeps him here with another losing season is his buyout being too big.
I see no reason to believe the W mark is set any higher than 4. If MikMac hits that, he is probably safe. I, personally, would not be happy, and would likely be in favor of a change, but the admin. seems pretty happy with him, and barring some total embarrassment, he will be here for 2019.
I agree. I don't see them buying him out, and I like the guy, but we need to start winning. If it was up to me it would be bowl game or gone.
ahoelsken
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I think RG could probably pull it off if he had to, and there's no Kevin Sumlin like clause in MM's contract that says he needs to be paid out in 60 days. The optics of this are a whole different matter though.....and getting people like Jack Kroll to okay a buyout might be problem if it comes to it.
Maybe he could pull it off, MM just has to win and then we have no worries.
Kroll can eat a bag of dicks!
ahoelsken
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Dear lord I hope you're wrong.....makes '16 look like an epic fluke.
I don’t think he’s predicting a 4-win season. He’s only saying a 5-win season won’t get MM fired.
7 wins. I'm not willing to predict anything less than that.
ahoelsken
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I didn't think that either, but I think the standards have gotta be higher here than 4-8.......I think we need to expect that this program is involved in a bowl game every year.
4 is about right. Bowl or he should be gone. Hell, 6 wins and his seat should be very ****ing hot. This team should win 7 or 8
What us pinheads think should be the minimum required number of wins and what RG thinks are likely two very different things. In fact, I wouldn’t be shocked if the number of wins is one of several factors that will contribute to his assessment of MM’s abilities.
Your opinion of Rick George mustn't be very high then.
I don’t know what have you that idea. I’m merely saying that the W/L record won’t be the sole factor in evaluating MM’s performance.
SerenityBuff
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For a little perspective here, in 5 full seasons at CU, MacIntyre has lost 38 games. In just under 5 full seasons at CU, Dan Hawkins lost 39 games. If MM misses a bowl game again this season, he has to go. I understand the financial and political ramifications that firing him would bring, but if RG is serious about building and maintaining a winning program, then there is no way MM can survive another losing season.
Of course not, but after year 6, it should be the biggest factor. Going 5-7 would put his CU coaching record at 30-45 overall and 15-39 in conference play with one bowl game appearance. CU being a dumpster fire when he got here or not, it's time to go at least .500 on a consistent basis, and regardless of other things, if he can't do that at this point, he should be asked to move on.
The only difference is that Hawkins inherited a team that went 7-6 (5-3) and won the Big 12 North. We all know what MM inherited... Because of that, I don't like the Hawkins comparison at all, even if W/L is similar, but it doesn't excuse MM not getting this team to a bowl game in year 6.
You are absolutely free to that opinion. I think RG takes a different approach.
Hopefully, we won’t have to find out.
I agree, but for different reasons.
Only way RG buys out his contract after a mediocre season is if RG has his guy lined up. Not going to fire him for a 4 win season and burn all that political and real capital if the stars aren't aligned.
The only way I see he is gone next year is: (1) he does something really dumb, a la Woody Hayes; (2) he wins 3 or less games and gets swept by rams and corn; or (3) the buffs have a magical year and he leaves.
4 to 6 wins and he is back. He was just extended.
The only way I see he is gone next year is: (1) he does something really dumb, a la Woody Hayes; (2) he wins 3 or less games and gets swept by rams and corn; or (3) the buffs have a magical year and he leaves.
4 to 6 wins and he is back. He was just extended.
5-7 translates to 3-6 in conference.
1, 0, 1, 8, 2, 3(?). Jeez.
He needs to win 5 conference games.
Yes, I forgot to specify that I'm assuming 3 P12 wins if they go 5-7 overall. For those saying he's safe even at 4 wins, a 4-8 record would most likely mean 2 conference wins... Really??
No Bowl Game, he is fired!!! You are not showing a commitment to greatness if you keep him any longer because he has nice facilities, good coaching salary pool, now has contracts for all assistants, has solid QB depth, and good skill players. We are at a critical moment for showing we are serious again about football, and I do not think we will only win 5 or less games, but if god forbid we do, then he has to go.
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BerkeleyBuff
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Lots of alums and boosters don't think Herm is a good fit. And he recently had the whole "we're going to start cutting people, and if you're injured then I don't have any film to grade you on.... guess what, I said that, and suddenly kids weren't injured anymore" thing.
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Biggest difference is we have been competitive. Before 2016 we lost probably 10-12 conference games by a score or less