Dennis Dodd's hot seat rankings

[onealcd]

Colin Cowherd had a good comment about “stepping stone” jobs. He said in his career field, every job is a stepping stone unless you’re hosting the Tonight Show or a few others that may be equivalent.

In coaching, it’s the same thing. Hell, Florida State just got its coach poached.

Washington got their coach poached by a team in the pac 12.

 

[MtnBuff]

I know FSU is a better job than Oregon, but Taggart used Oregon as a stepping stone, and I would bet that Cristobal is going to jump back to the SEC or at least back to the South if/when the opportunity arises.

Also a lot of coaches are "grass is greener" guys. No matter what school they are at they have an eye on the next move.

The idea of having a lifer coach who spends 20 years winning every year is a nice dream but it doesn't happen. Many coaches know that no matter what they do eventually the honeymoon will be over and they will have fans who don't think it is good enough. Gene Chizik won a NC at Auburn and was fired 2 years later (justifiably.)

A certain amount of turnover in HCs can be a positive thing.

I am very appreciative of Mike MacIntyre returning CU to being a program that looks like a real college football program, one that normally (excepting things like the Arizona State game) isn't an embarrassment like we were under Hawkins/Embree.

It is starting to look though like the program is going stale. What are the chances that under HCMM we become and stay significantly better than we are now. The new coach energy and excitement is gone and it hasn't been replaced with positive momentum.

 

[Highlander]

And I'm still waiting for the credible evidence pointing to Coach MM having interest in any job (Ole Miss, Vanderbilt). If it came from a good source, that would satisfy me but I've yet to see that brought here.

I'm surprised you keep harping on this point. Were you not on the board at the end of last season? A prominent, trusted poster here posted about it multiple times.
https://www.seccountry.com/mississi...tant-reportedly-interested-rebels-job-opening
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sp...t-mike-bobo-and-mike-mcintyre-back/882283001/

 

[Buffnik]

Also a lot of coaches are "grass is greener" guys. No matter what school they are at they have an eye on the next move.

The idea of having a lifer coach who spends 20 years winning every year is a nice dream but it doesn't happen. Many coaches know that no matter what they do eventually the honeymoon will be over and they will have fans who don't think it is good enough. Gene Chizik won a NC at Auburn and was fired 2 years later (justifiably.)

A certain amount of turnover in HCs can be a positive thing.

I am very appreciative of Mike MacIntyre returning CU to being a program that looks like a real college football program, one that normally (excepting things like the Arizona State game) isn't an embarrassment like we were under Hawkins/Embree.

It is starting to look though like the program is going stale. What are the chances that under HCMM we become and stay significantly better than we are now. The new coach energy and excitement is gone and it hasn't been replaced with positive momentum.

Not just "grass is greener". There's also the nature of the profession. If you don't want to stay at a place forever, sometimes you leave for a parallel job just so your career doesn't go stagnant and it becomes a situation where you'e more likely to get fired from your current job than you are to be hired somewhere else.

I think that's kind of the case with MacIntyre right now. Unless he has a spectacular next couple seasons and ends up coach for life at CU as what he and his wife want, his career actually benefits (money and security) by leaving CU as soon as he can. From comments I see from CU fans every day, it seems like if he went 7-5 or 8-4 this year that he'd become a victim of his own success with the rebuild. While there was a ton of patience that was unprecedented to get us out of the shambles we were in as evidenced by the beatdown programs like Fresno State were putting on us, there is not nearly the same level of patience for growing things back from mediocrity to where things were most recently at the height of GB's era (pre-scandal / pre-Dorrell to UCLA with our best recruiters).

 

[MtnBuff]

Not just "grass is greener". There's also the nature of the profession. If you don't want to stay at a place forever, sometimes you leave for a parallel job just so your career doesn't go stagnant and it becomes a situation where you'e more likely to get fired from your current job than you are to be hired somewhere else.

I think that's kind of the case with MacIntyre right now. Unless he has a spectacular next couple seasons and ends up coach for life at CU as what he and his wife want, his career actually benefits (money and security) by leaving CU as soon as he can. From comments I see from CU fans every day, it seems like if he went 7-5 or 8-4 this year that he'd become a victim of his own success with the rebuild. While there was a ton of patience that was unprecedented to get us out of the shambles we were in as evidenced by the beatdown programs like Fresno State were putting on us, there is not nearly the same level of patience for growing things back from mediocrity to where things were most recently at the height of GB's era (pre-scandal / pre-Dorrell to UCLA with our best recruiters).

I was trying to get at this. For a coach it is easier to be the new guy than be the old familiar. After a time period unless you are winning more than you did the prior couple of years the fans get uneasy. The green grass can very much be a similar program to what you left but with a new fan base that isn't tired of you yet.

 

[buffaholic]

I'm surprised you keep harping on this point. Were you not on the board at the end of last season? A prominent, trusted poster here posted about it multiple times.
https://www.seccountry.com/mississi...tant-reportedly-interested-rebels-job-opening
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/sp...t-mike-bobo-and-mike-mcintyre-back/882283001/

No I missed it. And I'm still missing it as neither of those links are credible. The Coloradoan is repeating some rumor from somewhere. The other guy is a known ass clown (Football Scoop has less cred than Waldo).

Who posted it on here? I read the 2nd hand stuff, but I never saw any inside info that seemed credible. BTW, I cannot imagine that Ole Miss wouldn't have seen MM as a giant upgrade and hired him on the spot. Despite what our fans think, Nationally the turnaround that CU has made is still seen as miraculous, even with last year.

 

[vinniew_11]

No I missed it. And I'm still missing it as neither of those links are credible. The Coloradoan is repeating some rumor from somewhere. The other guy is a known ass clown (Football Scoop has less cred than Waldo).

Who posted it on here? I read the 2nd hand stuff, but I never saw any inside info that seemed credible. BTW, I cannot imagine that Ole Miss wouldn't have seen MM as a giant upgrade and hired him on the spot. Despite what our fans think, Nationally the turnaround that CU has made is still seen as miraculous, even with last year.

And I’d also point out that if a school will reach out, it’s to his agent. That does not construe interest in the job.

 

[hawg1]

No I missed it. And I'm still missing it as neither of those links are credible. The Coloradoan is repeating some rumor from somewhere. The other guy is a known ass clown (Football Scoop has less cred than Waldo).

Who posted it on here? I read the 2nd hand stuff, but I never saw any inside info that seemed credible. BTW, I cannot imagine that Ole Miss wouldn't have seen MM as a giant upgrade and hired him on the spot. Despite what our fans think, Nationally the turnaround that CU has made is still seen as miraculous, even with last year.

There’s that word... turnaround.

 

[Duff Man]

No I missed it. And I'm still missing it as neither of those links are credible. The Coloradoan is repeating some rumor from somewhere. The other guy is a known ass clown (Football Scoop has less cred than Waldo).

Who posted it on here? I read the 2nd hand stuff, but I never saw any inside info that seemed credible. BTW, I cannot imagine that Ole Miss wouldn't have seen MM as a giant upgrade and hired him on the spot. Despite what our fans think, Nationally the turnaround that CU has made is still seen as miraculous, even with last year.

...except for many people nationally putting MM on the hot seat entering 2018.