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Eric Bien(i)emy's next job speculation, shut out again
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I get the arguments against EB for HC, but when guys like KK and Zac Taylor get HC jobs it's kind of hard to understand. Last year everyone who has ever met McVay got a HC job, yet EB has been Reid's right hand man for several years now and nobody wants to give him a shot? I mean, Dan Campbell? Dolphins fans wanted him hired for some reason after he filled in for half a season and I never got it. He's buff and fiery, but there's nothing about him that screams great HC.
Nice to read that all signs are pointing to him receiving strong marks in the interviews. I'm sure if he wasn't getting strong reports, that segment would not have made the article, so imo it really only leaves it to what this article described which is simultaneously disheartening and unsurprising considering the NFL owners similarities.
Head coach outlook bleak for Bieniemy despite wealth of experience, raising questions about hiring practices
Alongside a lack of diversity, the hiring cycle is detrimental for those coaching in the postseasonwww.cbssports.com
As much as I don't want to believe that race is the issue, it's hard for me to imagine a white coach with his exact resume not getting a shot.
jpbuff
Well-Known Member
Maybe he is the Brent Venables of the nfl. Good coach but for some reason just gets passed over head coaching jobs. Maybe he is a terrible interview.
I mean, a guy who interviews and is obviously pursued for almost 7 jobs and gets none of them, there is obviously an alternative motive.
What about a white guy with some of the same off field issues he has had?
Matt Patricia.
What was his off field issues? Genuinely curious as I don’t know
(Obviously don’t intend to compare specifics) but:
Detroit Lions coach Matt Patricia sex assault allegations: What we know
Here is what to know about the 1996 sexual assault allegations, and indictment, against Detroit Lions coach Matt Patricia.
www.freep.com
I hope EB gets a shot somewhere, I didn't want it to be the ****ing Jets, that's for damn sure. Somebody will give him an opportunity, whether it's this year or next. He's earned it.
NewEra 2014
Well-Known Member
Has he “earned it”? The only up close evidence we have of EB as a coach was during the Embree years. EB was a disaster. If he was a good coach at all, NFL teams would be falling over themselves trying to hire him because of his race.
NewEra 2014
Well-Known Member
They are if the coach is minimally qualified. EB is not minimally qualified.The league isn’t falling over themselves to hire black coaches.
You are a true idiot. The league has a racism problem in coach hiring.
Wow, not much to add to this. Hey New Era, show us your Natty and Super Bowl ring. He does deserve a shot at a head job somewhere, tough if you don't like it.
70% of NFL players are black. It's been over 50% for decades.
I'd love for someone to make an argument for why we don't see around half of GM & Personnel Director type positions, Coordinator jobs and HC jobs filled by African Americans at this point.
It's under 10% of HCs.
If it's not due to racial bias in hiring management positions, what is it?
I'd love for someone to make an argument for why we don't see around half of GM & Personnel Director type positions, Coordinator jobs and HC jobs filled by African Americans at this point.
It's under 10% of HCs.
If it's not due to racial bias in hiring management positions, what is it?
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Define minimally qualified.
lawdogg
Club Member
Most of the reticence people around here have regarding EB’s prospects as a head coach have to do with how he performed in Boulder as a coordinator a decade ago. Now, putting aside a discussion of the merits of that position, I can at least understand where folks are coming from. I just don’t get the sense that’s what NFL owners are leaning on as the rationale for not giving Eric an opportunity.
While true, the problem is that these types of arguments can be made about any individual candidate.
And at the end of the day, if you're a good enough coach to be the OC for a Super Bowl winner then you're a good enough coach to get a shot as a HC.
I believe that is a little too simplistic.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
Bieniemy has interviewed for 13 jobs the last 3 cycles. While I don’t discount the element of racism in NFL hiring practices, the odds of 13 teams going in another direction solely because of his race seems highly unlikely - there is something else these teams just don’t like about him as a candidate.
Yes, there are likely some sub conscious or even blatant racial biases at play, but when half the league has interviewed him and gone a different direction, it is not the reason
How does taylor get a head coaching job before EB though?