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Then they'd be in the same position they are currently, except they'd have a HC who understands the importance of recruiting and has a track record of being able to close.
Remember when we were throwing around ideas as to what improvements were needed at Folsom? It ranged from a complete reconfiguration of the west side to a better sound system. Folsom needs major repairs. It’s going to be expensive. Honestly, given the state of things, I cannot see how any of that happens. The decline of the program in general, massive uncertainty regarding conference realignment, and mounting deferred maintenance/renovation could force the administration into investment choices that doom CU football forever.
I hope you've lost your mind. People on here closer to the program would know better than I would. If only I were a billionaire, I'd fix this bull**** real quick.
Maybe but are you willing to take that bet?
I would rather have Chev as HC right now than Dorrell, yes.
Possibly. Maybe more likely at CU given the state response to Covid. But I look at KU the same year.
Again, I think CU needs a HC who will completely own one side of the ball as "his system". In other words, a guy who's been very successful as an OC or DC and we will run his system, with a "on the cheap" assistant to run that side for the HC. Pay up for the other side coordinator.
I understand and agree. That doesn't change the fact that I would have rather just rolled with Chev when Tucker bailed than hired Dorrell.
Especially when you consider the budget constraints we always hear about. Given that, why not go to the model of the LA Rams and others? If your HC can mentor your QBs while running the offense, that opens up a ton of budget to hire a top tier DC, OL Coach and other personnel. CU has never really done this with an offensive coach. We have with defensive coaches post-GB and those were the ones (MacIntyre & Tucker) who worked out the best -- although with MacIntyre he didn't take enough ownership of the defense & the most successful season by far ended up being driven by hiring a high-priced DC with Leavitt. So not only does RG need to make that sort of hire, the expectations need to be clear that the HC is expected to focus on being a guru for one side of the ball.
Interesting. I see it as a lose-lose situation. Chev’s public advocacy for the job and the fact that his recruiting has dropped off doesn’t give me hope that he has the demeanor to be a HC.
Because we know that Chev can recruit when he wants, I don't put much stock into his current non-recruiting attitude. We all know coordinators don't recruit as much as the other staff members, but I also think Chev has been approaching this OC stint solely as a way to get a HC job, so his focus is there, not on recruiting players who will help this program in 2-3 years.
Seriously? Why would anyone disagree with that right now? This team is the most poorly coached CU team in a decade and the recruiting is awful. At the very least, I think Chev would have the recruiting in a better spot.
Which is all the discussion was about. Hire Chev, or hire Dorrell. Which one has this program in a better spot right now from both on field performance and recruiting?
Who are the recruits that Chev has landed in the last 365 days? Does Chev seem like a good CEO type (public twitter whining)? Does he seem like he's great schematically?
Again, coordinators recruit far less than other coaches and I don't think Chev cares about it right now as OC because he's looking to parlay this into being a HC somewhere else. We all know he can recruit when he wants to and when it serves him, though, which is exactly what would happen if he was HC, IMO.
Sounds like you believe in failing up.
Once. Again. I am not suggesting that he should have been the HC over anyone else.... other than Karl Dorrell.
Talked with a buddy from Cincy. He went to Ohio U, but has a ton of clients that are Cincy U alum. Sounds like the money is flowing like water into that program right now and the season is basically just half over. Win and get the bag. That's how simple it is my friends.
Chev would've likely gone out and got a hot DC commodity because he doesn't know sh!t about D. So maybe, this would've been a better deal. He certainly would've been cheaper and had a contract clause more partial to the school than Dorrell's. Hmmmmm...
This argument can only be made now because of the dismal performance of HCKD. While hiring HCKD wasn't awe inspiring, I would have pick him over Chev at the time because of Chev's childish twitter behavior during the search. He just wasn't showing to be HC material. The contract 'negotiation' conducted by RG for HCKD also adds a huge amount of fuel to the fire now that we know the details there, too.
Right. This is my opinion with the benefit of hindsight, but honestly, I suggested this as a possibility at the time as well.
