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Fishers return

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First off, let me say that’s the most incredible thing I’ve ever witnessed on a football field. I was overjoyed at the result and it was amazing.

But here’s why you take a knee in that situation: on the next Cal drive, they scored. On the PAT they had an OL get hurt with what looked like a torn ACL. Dude couldn’t put any weight on it at all. That play never happens if Fisher takes a knee. The result of the game is the same. The scoring differential is the same.

I loved the play and can totally understand why he did it. I also understand why MM would have wanted him to take a knee.
 
MM is obsessed with situational football. He really took the tutelage under Bill Parcells to heart (Parcells maybe the best ever at this).

So everything is about either extending the game and opportunities if the team is behind or shortening the game and shrinking the window of opportunity if ahead.

In the case of Fisher's return, him scoring a touchdown shrunk the window but if he'd slid down it would have almost completely shut the window on Cal.

All that is the background of why I get why MM was so passionate about Fisher's decision on that play. I like that he's passionate and believe that playing great situational football is an area where this CU program can have a real advantage over opponents. It's something the team hasn't been as good at this year and is clearly a point of emphasis.

However, some times you've got to chillax a bit. Should have been a conversation with Fisher along the lines of, "Great play. Don't do it again." Then use it as a teaching moment in film on Monday. MM over-reacted.
 
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I didn’t watch on TV, so I didn’t see MM’s sideline reaction. I agree that at that moment, you pat the kid on the helmet and point out the correct thing to do in practice later in the week. When the crowd is going nuts, you don’t get pissed at a player for making the play that set them off.
 
Buffnik said:
MM is obsessed with situational football. He really took the tutelage under Bill Parcells to heart (Parcells maybe the best ever at this).

So everything is about either extending the game and opportunities if the team is behind or shortening the game and shrinking the window of opportunity if ahead.

In the case of Fisher's return, him scoring a touchdown shrunk the window but if he'd slid down it would have almost completely shut the window on Cal.

All that is the background of why I get why MM was so passionate about Fisher's decision on that play. I like that he's passionate and believe that playing great situational football is an area where this CU program can have a real advantage over opponents. It's something the team hasn't been as good at this year and is clearly a point of emphasis.

However, some times you've got to chillax a bit. Should have been a conversation with Fisher along the lines of, "Great play. Don't do it again." Then use it as a teaching moment in film on Monday. MM over-reacted.
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My thoughts exactly. you have to balance the emotion and the intellect.
 
Screw MM for getting upset about it.

On defense, you grind all game long, doing stuff that most people probably don’t even notice. And then you get a gift from the offense and green grass in front of you. Go get your glory. If getting another 7pts doesn’t effectively seal a victory with minutes remaining then your team didn’t deserve to win anyway.

Screw MM.
 
TDforTD said:
Screw MM for getting upset about it.

On defense, you grind all game long, doing stuff that most people probably don’t even notice. And then you get a gift from the offense and green grass in front of you. Go get your glory. If getting another 7pts doesn’t effectively seal a victory with minutes remaining then your team didn’t deserve to win anyway.

Screw MM.
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61 words, 4 of them "screw MM". Well done.
 
I'll just remind all of you that 2006-2012 Colorado Buffaloes would have had the defender take the ball out of the end zone, promptly fumble the ball on the 4 yard line, thereby giving the ball back to the other team and eventually snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
Buffnik said:
MM is obsessed with situational football. He really took the tutelage under Bill Parcells to heart (Parcells maybe the best ever at this).

So everything is about either extending the game and opportunities if the team is behind or shortening the game and shrinking the window of opportunity if ahead.

In the case of Fisher's return, him scoring a touchdown shrunk the window but if he'd slid down it would have almost completely shut the window on Cal.

All that is the background of why I get why MM was so passionate about Fisher's decision on that play. I like that he's passionate and believe that playing great situational football is an area where this CU program can have a real advantage over opponents. It's something the team hasn't been as good at this year and is clearly a point of emphasis.

However, some times you've got to chillax a bit. Should have been a conversation with Fisher along the lines of, "Great play. Don't do it again." Then use it as a teaching moment in film on Monday. MM over-reacted.
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It has to be, "nice play Fi$h, don't ever ****ing do it again."
 
I don’t want anybody to think I wasn’t thrilled during the play. It was awesome.

That said, he should have taken a knee. That’s the smart play. The smart play and the exciting play are often very different.
 
When Fisher was called in last season and stuffed the Wazzou receiver on 3rd down just behind the first down marker when he was subbing for Chido, he’s been a player to watch. The young man is a high performer. He’s on the path to becoming my favorite defenders. I’ll enjoy him for years to come. It wouldn’t surprise me if he eventually ends up playing on Sundays.

That ill-advised Pick6 was rediculous. It was lucky, like not getting your girlfriend pregnant when the rubber breaks. It worked out this time.

But by no means is it advised to keep encouraging that kind of risky behavior.

Congrats, Nick, for getting away with this one. You stud.
 
This game play is the reason I love college football. The emotion and instinct makes the game much more exciting.

How many of you, during that play, thought “oh ****! He’s taking it out! Take a kne... TAKE IT TO THE HOOUUUUUUSE! “

Yes, the smart play would have been to down it. That’s why we have the boring NFL.
 
everyone has their role--- coaches get to yell and correct player actions to help the team grow. players get to throw out the playbook when they cook one like that. it is all good.
 
Speaking of the boring NFL, and as for why you don't do that, the Broncos were in a similar situation against KC last year at home.

They had a one point lead and the ball, trying to run out the clock. KC had just used their last TO. Siemian hit Bennie Fowler for a long ball. If Fowler just runs the ball maybe into FG territory and goes down, the Broncos run out most of the remaining time, kick a FG, and probably win the game.

Instead, Fowler went all the way, giving KC the ball back with a couple of minutes left, down 8 points. KC went down, scored a TD, got the 2 point conversion, and won the game in OT.
 
Clean Undies said:
When Fisher was called in last season and stuffed the Wazzou receiver on 3rd down just behind the first down marker when he was subbing for Chido, he’s been a player to watch. The young man is a high performer. He’s on the path to becoming my favorite defenders. I’ll enjoy him for years to come. It wouldn’t surprise me if he eventually ends up playing on Sundays.

That ill-advised Pick6 was rediculous. It was lucky, like not getting your girlfriend pregnant when the rubber breaks. It worked out this time.

But by no means is it advised to keep encouraging that kind of risky behavior.

Congrats, Nick, for getting away with this one. You stud.
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I really like our starting safeties next season with Fisher and Worthington.

Senior safeties, senior ILBs and senior NTs. Defense should be strong up the middle.
 
Buffnik said:
I really like our starting safeties next season with Fisher and Worthington.

Senior safeties, senior ILBs and senior NTs. Defense should be strong up the middle.
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Hopefully getting Jones and some of the other freshman to man the other ILB (or at least spell Gamboa a bunch) will be huge as well.
 
Why aren’t we blaming Fo? He had the big block to set it up and cleared the lane for Fisher. Fisher said in the post game he initially thought about taking it to the middle until he saw Fo level the guy in front of him.
 
patebuff said:
Hopefully getting Jones and some of the other freshman to man the other ILB (or at least spell Gamboa a bunch) will be huge as well.
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I hate to agree with you patebuff (cause you never agree with me), but you are totally right in that upgrading Gamboa's spot is a necessity to advance the Defense. I have honestly not even seen Jones play a down this year? Is Gamboa so smart that he knows if he takes a play off that we will all see what two athletic middle backers would look like and realize he is a minor liability? Also, the DL is still a step below being a really solid bunch, and maybe there is a late recruit or another JC guy that can come in and continue that upgrade.
 
lvbuff said:
Will Sami contribute next season?
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I'm not counting on that. No one should. If he does, mark it as a nice surprise from a RS-Frosh competing in his first season at one of the most challenging positions in the scheme that CU runs.
 
Cal was so disappointed and he was so deep they sort of fell asleep on the play. If they hadn’t he’d have probably been tackled around the 5. Then, if we go 3 and out......
 
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One of the seven best baseball movies EVAR!!

The others in no particular order are IMO:

Bull Durham
The Natural
For the Love of the Game (yeah, it's mostly a romantic chick flick, but the actual baseball scenes ring true. Plus it totally disses the Yankees and their fans, and that's always good)
Eight Men Out
Field of Dreams (yeah ... scmaltzy and sentimental, but if the final scene doesn't choke you up, you are either not human or you really really hated your father)
The Bad News Bears (the original)

I'm sure others will have their own lists, e.g., The Sandlot (which for some reason always seems to come on when there are other sports or shows I want to watch, so I've never seen it all through), Pride of the Yankees, etc. But IMHO the ones I listed are the cream of the crop.
 
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L Buff said:
One of the seven best baseball movies EVAR!!

The others in no particular order are IMO:

Bull Durham
The Natural
For the Love of the Game (yeah, it's mostly a romantic chick flick, but the actual baseball scenes ring true)
Eight Men Out
Field of Dreams (yeah ... scmaltzy and sentimental, but if the final scene doesn't choke you up, you are either not human or you really really hated your father)
The Bad News Bears (the original)

I'm sure others will have their own lists, e.g., The Sandlot (which for some reason always seems to come on when there are other sports or shows I want to watch, so I've never seen it all through), Pride of the Yankees, etc. But IMHO the ones I listed are the cream of the crop.
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A League of Their Own is better than everything on your list other than Bull Durham and Major League.
 
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