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Fishers return
- Thread starter sackman
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I didn't notice Mac's reaction, but I read the post game. MM was laughing about it, I think the conversation you all wish he had with Nick was, in fact, the conversion they ended up having. Also funny was Fisher saying he knew as soon as he left it was a bad decision, but he hoped if he took it to the house Mac would forgive him
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Yer just hoping for a Geena Davis up skirt.
I always agree with you! Just not to your face.
Two points in favor of what Fischer did.
One is that you never want to take the aggression out of your players, especially defensive players. This is kind of like the discussion about having DBs knock the ball down instead of intercept it on fourth down. I don't want my defensive players worrying about should I or shouldn't I. Just make the play, it will lose you a lot less than the hesitation about should I or shouldn't I will cost you.
When he was still playing somebody once asked John Elway about why he changed the play call and threw the ball downfield late in a game the Broncos were leading. His response, paraphrased was "The best way to protect a lead is to add a touchdown to it and let the opponent burn clock trying to get it back."
Now the balance of all that is that Fischer had to get through some traffic before hitting open field. Had he been tackled inside the 10 or 15 then the Buffs make a mistake Cal could have won the game on it.
I'd rather have the points on the board than worry about coulda, woulda, shouldas.
One is that you never want to take the aggression out of your players, especially defensive players. This is kind of like the discussion about having DBs knock the ball down instead of intercept it on fourth down. I don't want my defensive players worrying about should I or shouldn't I. Just make the play, it will lose you a lot less than the hesitation about should I or shouldn't I will cost you.
When he was still playing somebody once asked John Elway about why he changed the play call and threw the ball downfield late in a game the Broncos were leading. His response, paraphrased was "The best way to protect a lead is to add a touchdown to it and let the opponent burn clock trying to get it back."
Now the balance of all that is that Fischer had to get through some traffic before hitting open field. Had he been tackled inside the 10 or 15 then the Buffs make a mistake Cal could have won the game on it.
I'd rather have the points on the board than worry about coulda, woulda, shouldas.
One of my all time favorite movies. But as Burrito pointed out in another thread, I am a girl.
Tom Hanks was good in A League of Their Own, one of his better roles, funny anyway.
Hence the name "buffwomam526" (and more power to you...)
Did anyone ever tell you, you look like a penis with that little hat on?
Lol, forgot that one.
So you were okay with Blackmon catching a punt inside the 10 and retreating to them 5 and getting tackled? Or Irwin cleaning a guy’s clock and getting ejected? Or Montez throwing into coverage and getting picked? Those are all aggressive plays. You want guys to be aggressive but you also want them to play smart.
I think you've gotta find a way to balance the two no? You've gotta gamble at times depending on situation.
You will notice that I specifically emphasized defensive players.
You do want players to be intelligent, no I don't want punt returners to be regularly retreating and losing yardage. At the same time had Blackmon gotten around the corner and ended up with a huge return we would all be praising him.
QBs all the time have to balance risk and reward, no QB goes without some INTs, the question is how many vs. how many plays they make.
Irwin's play wasn't aggressive, it was dumb, big difference. There is no reward to going after somebodies head, you don't ever get good results when you make contact with an opponents head.
buffalo1
Club Member
Like everyone else, watching Fisher streak up the sideline to paydirt was a thrill and emphasizes what is fun about college football. Unbridled passion. Then I watched Fisher reach MM on sideline and MM giving him strong words which I assumed was about taking the ball out of the endzone...but wait. MM kept waving at the south endzone where NF scored. I was expecting MM to be pointing at the endzone where NF intercepted. Then after game in interview MM said what I think is key. He wanted NF to go down at the cal 2 yard line. So while many are fretting about him coming out of endzone and thinking MM yelling about the same, I think MM wanted him to just drop at other end of field so as to be nowhere near where cal could score.
Really? I'd rather have 7 more points and kick it off through the end zone.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
Yes I’m not prepared to accuse MAC of being so clueless he’d rather run out the clock than take 2 steps and get 7 points.
This discussion is fine but going nowhere. Bottom line is we got 7 pts so many want to claim it was the right move. And from the result, it apparently WAS the right move. Failing to get the TD on the fake field goal vs UCLA was the wrong move, since it didn’t work. Had it worked, of course Mac would be applauded for boldly choosing the right move.
I’m done with this. Go Buffs beat ASU!!
You can't play afraid of injury. Sadly a career ending injury can happen on any play. Don't remember the game but last year I saw a guy stumble and fall on the leg of an OL in victory formation and he had to be carried off. Fischer had no way of knowing nor should he that play would result in an injury.
It's different if you are making a play that involves taking direct shots at other players but returning an INT isn't one of those.
Meh injuries are part of the game unfortunately.
Ahkello knew Mac would be pissed. (Who knows what leek slidin means).
I missed missed this. Who got hurt?
NeverGiveIn
Confused by the facts
It’s just been so long since we’ve had a big play like that (pick 6, kick return for TD, long post completions, Hail Mary, heck even many exciting turnovers), as a fan, it was like plunging into a crystal clear, cool clean mountain spring after hiking up and down the Grand Canyon on the hottest, dusty day of summer.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
That's a reach. He caught that ball with about 2:50 left so CU couldn't just take a knee to run out the clock - who knows what would have happened.
A Cal player. OL. Happened on the PAT after the last score.
Sykobuff
Well-Known Member
Yes, take it to the house. He scored. Mac told him to be aware of the scenario. Buffs won. Move on people.
SINKRATZ
PhD in Analogy
You're getting an argument that the injury was somehow Fisher's fault, that's ridiculous.
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Yeah not like the lineman couldn't have got hurt any number of ways. If you think that's what football is, God Bless ya.
Not the proximate cause. **** happens. Hope the guy makes a full recovery and is able to play again