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Games thread- MEN'S BBall hosts #5 Houston (Sat., 2/8/24; 2:00 PM MT; ESPN+) and visits #16/17 Kansas (Tuesday, 7:00 PM MT; ESPN or ESPN2)

This really sucks, and, I'll give credit to Boyle in that I haven't seen this team quit. At least not yet.

I do think Boyle should face some accountability for this season. I'm not sure what methods of accountability work for college coaches short of termination though.

Thanks again for the ticket, @jsmilkst
 
Da Lama said:
If you want to be somewhat successful next season the only players you work to keep are: Dak, Rancik and Ruffin. The players you tell you hope they stay are: Smith, Baskin, and Diop. The players you push out of the progam are: Malone, Anderson, Kosarras, and Crawford. You take Carrington off scholarship.

We have 5 Frosh coming in. All are good enough not to RS. That leaves only 8 other scholarships. Those should be:
Dak
Rancik
Ruffin
Baskin
Diop
TRANSFER #1
TRANSFER #2
TRANSFER #3

End of story.
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3-4 of these type guys would help!

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hokiehead said:
It seems to be board consensus that won't happen.

So, assuming that's true, what's the most likely path for MBB to get out of this quagmire?
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I honestly feel like Tad is close to retirement, for better or for worse. I don't think he likes this new era of college athletics, I don't think he likes having his players being pushed via the portal while being left with NAIA and D2 transfers to fill the holes with.

We could have had Lampkin, Hadley, LOB, and Nique playing for us this year. Outside of Nique (whose departure was understandable), those guys are getting NIL money they wouldn't have gotten here.

Maybe he stays next year to work with the incoming players, but if he gets the pants beat off of him in the portal again, I think he bounces.
 
Alfred91 said:
I honestly feel like Tad is close to retirement, for better or for worse. I don't think he likes this new era of college athletics, I don't think he likes having his players being pushed via the portal while being left with NAIA and D2 transfers to fill the holes with.

We could have had Lampkin, Hadley, LOB, and Nique playing for us this year. Outside of Nique (whose departure was understandable), those guys are getting NIL money they wouldn't have gotten here.

Maybe he stays next year to work with the incoming players, but if he gets the pants beat off of him in the portal again, I think he bounces.
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Nothing in your post sounds like hope for next season.
 
hokiehead said:
Nothing in your post sounds like hope for next season.
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Well.... maybe the incoming freshmen inject life into the program? If nothing else we're going to have a dude named Tacko, which the students are going to love.
 
I'm actually surprised they kept it that close. Did Houston have some guys out or something? As far as Tad, he's done a damn good job at CU. It might have run it's course, though. That said, if he wants one more year, I think he's earned that. For the love of God, don't go winless in conference though.
 
Next Saturday really seems like our best shot at a win. If we lose that, I'd say it's then senior day vs TCU, but going into that game winless it's hard to imagine the team getting it up.

I hate this.
 
Da Lama said:
If you want to be somewhat successful next season the only players you work to keep are: Dak, Rancik and Ruffin. The players you tell you hope they stay are: Smith, Baskin, and Diop. The players you push out of the progam are: Malone, Anderson, Kosarras, and Crawford. You take Carrington off scholarship.

We have 5 Frosh coming in. All are good enough not to RS. That leaves only 8 other scholarships. Those should be:
Dak
Rancik
Ruffin
Baskin
Diop
TRANSFER #1
TRANSFER #2
TRANSFER #3

End of story.
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Are we sure Malone and Baskin have another year?

I don't see it with Diop. I'd like to see him pushed out.

Same with RJ.

I also don't like our chances with Ruffin and Baskin as starters in the Big 12.

Kossaras got a lot of minutes yesterday so I doubt the plan is to push him out. I also liked a lot of the things he did. I think he has potential.

It is head scratching that we haven't seen Anderson. Tad might actually push him out.

Crawford is a complete unknown to me. Again, pretty head scratching that he hasn't gotten minutes in this lost season.

I think in reality the only guys we lose are the ones who run out of eligibility, the grad transfers with eligibility get told to move on, Dak and/or Rancik could get poached, and possibly Anderson gets told to move on.
 
Preston Slaughter said:
Are we sure Malone and Baskin have another year? Malone - yes. Baskin - Likely

I don't see it with Diop. I'd like to see him pushed out. - I don't think he's a starter, but he could easily develop into an 7pt/5rb glue guy with the right lineup.

Same with RJ. - I think someone on staff has ruined RJ.

I also don't like our chances with Ruffin and Baskin as starters in the Big 12. - Both should be subs next year if we do things right

Kossaras got a lot of minutes yesterday so I doubt the plan is to push him out. I also liked a lot of the things he did. I think he has potential. - We disagree here. Completely.

It is head scratching that we haven't seen Anderson. Tad might actually push him out. - He's been hurt for 3 years and he was never that good to begin with. Pretty sure Tad's keeping him on to be nice at this point.

Crawford is a complete unknown to me. Again, pretty head scratching that he hasn't gotten minutes in this lost season. - He redshirted. Watched him play in HS. HIGHLY overrated and I said so when we were recruiting him. If you can't make the 10 man rotation on this year's squad that kind of proves my point.

I think in reality the only guys we lose are the ones who run out of eligibility, the grad transfers with eligibility get told to move on, Dak and/or Rancik could get poached, and possibly Anderson gets told to move on. - If more don't move on, Tad will have to redshirt half the incoming class and that's not what you do in this era. We'll also likely be just as bad or worse next year.
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BuffLuke80 said:
I'm actually surprised they kept it that close. Did Houston have some guys out or something? As far as Tad, he's done a damn good job at CU. It might have run it's course, though. That said, if he wants one more year, I think he's earned that. For the love of God, don't go winless in conference though.
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Sharp was out. Arguably their best player.
 
I think my philosophy is to move off of guys with "glue guy" potential and heavily invest in young guys with starting potential. The value of a glue guy on this and next year's team is low since there is no core to glue together.

I will be very upset if by this time next year we don't know what we have in the question mark players from this year and the incoming freshman.

But I don't trust Tad to do that. He will give Ruffin, RJ, Baskin, and Diop a lot of minutes and we will have wasted a year of development for the freshman.

If none of the unknowns and freshman have higher potential than the group above then that is a bigger indictment on Tad and the state of the program.
 
Preston Slaughter said:
I think my philosophy is to move off of guys with "glue guy" potential and heavily invest in young guys with starting potential. The value of a glue guy on this and next year's team is low since there is no core to glue together.

I will be very upset if by this time next year we don't know what we have in the question mark players from this year and the incoming freshman.

But I don't trust Tad to do that. He will give Ruffin, RJ, Baskin, and Diop a lot of minutes and we will have wasted a year of development for the freshman.

If none of the unknowns and freshman have higher potential than the group above then that is a bigger indictment on Tad and the state of the program.
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The scary thing is in the list above take out Baskin and add Dak and Malone and you have, in all likelihood, our starting lineup for next year based on Tad's tendencies.
 
My guess is there will be a lot of shuffling with this group and lots of other rosters as well. After a season like this I think many guys will scatter. Most of the guys on this team even as bad as the record is can leave and get larger NIL deals or more regular playing circumstances else where. Not to say they will all go, but there will be attrition. Most of the front line, even Malone can get bigger pay days. So you have to ask if you were in their shoes would you stay and potentially be this frustrated again, or take a higher pay day and seek out a different alternative. Maybe closer to home and family or whatever. The back court on the other hand will have fewer options. More guards available, usually. I think generally there will mostly be almost an entirely new roster next year. Considering how the meshing of this group has gone it could be tough.
 
I love Tad and as Goose mentioned in the other thread, he’s the best coach for CU most of us have seen in our lifetimes. But if we go winless in conference which is pretty likely atp, that’s a black mark on a career that’s been otherwise very solid
 
WHY THE FVCK DO WE STEP ON OUR DICKS AROUND THE 8 MINUTE MARK OF EVERY DAMN HALF??!!
 
They're really not playing bad. Turnovers and rebounds are even. Getting to the line and getting makes in 2pt range. But 1/11 from 3. Normalize that (KU's 3/7) and it's a single digit game.
 
Whats up with the Kansas kid that stops and carries the ball on his dribble. Refs gotta get back to calling that. Rancic has potential
 
Buffnik said:
I remember him being streaky at Wazzu. I think that is what he is as a scoring threat He also hasn't gotten a lot of room to operate or been allowed to be comfortable against Big 12 defenses.
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We all seemed to overlook the fact he’s a career 7.5/4.5 guy. Not sure why we all thought he was coming in to be a go to guy.

Edit: Hank’s already on it.
 
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