Which makes me happy.
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Good day re:CSU
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Which makes me happy.
That would be funny.
I like Frank - wouldn't mind if he was the CU prez. Has done a great job with the CSU system, and clearly values athletics.
Oh my goodness. CSU seemed to pull a bad situation from the fire in getting the deal done for McElwain and UF. It would have looked really bad if the deal got shot down. But it didn't and it sounds like CSU ended up with some decent cabbage. But letting Frank go it alone on the coaching search is a disaster in the making IMO.
Sacky brings up an interesting point about the lack of a permanent AD during the hiring process.
He stated that a coaching prospect might worry about having a lack of support from an AD who wasn't the one who hired him, a very legitimate concern since that AD might not feel like his legacy is tied to the success of a coach he didn't hire.
Another question to look at comes from a different angle. If the coach is for practical terms a "President's hire" will AD candidates worry about their authority over that coach and ability to make decisions regarding the coach without undue interfearance from the president who hired the coach. This could make for some awkward situations.
He stated that a coaching prospect might worry about having a lack of support from an AD who wasn't the one who hired him, a very legitimate concern since that AD might not feel like his legacy is tied to the success of a coach he didn't hire.
Another question to look at comes from a different angle. If the coach is for practical terms a "President's hire" will AD candidates worry about their authority over that coach and ability to make decisions regarding the coach without undue interfearance from the president who hired the coach. This could make for some awkward situations.
FlatironsBuff
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I am a little surprised that there isn't more heat on the fact that the CSU Prez (a state employee) is spending so much of his time dealing with the stadium and the football coach search. If Benson was in Frank's position, I would think people would be jumping all over the fact that the President should be dealing with academics, rather than the AD. And actually, I tend to agree. Hire a fricking AD or promote Morris already!
My read on this is that Frank does not trust Morris to conduct the coaching search & hiring process. And if that's the case, there's no way in hell that Morris should be promoted to AD.
allsome
Because, you know, Tony Frank has done this dozens of times. Amirite?
CsquaredCC
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Jack Graham had never hired a coach before he took the job. I am not going to worry about it too much, until I receive confirmation from a credible source (not Matt Stephens) that a search firm will not, in fact, be hired or consulted in this process. If Tony does go it alone - I agree that is a big problem.
ramfan
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Exactly. CSU's two previous hires, McElwain and Eustachy, were made while the athletic department was being ran by someone with no AD experience. As long as CSU retains a search firm, and definitely use that some one, they will be ok.
Unlikely. Historically they have been far from okay. I think I read somewhere that McElwain was the first coach to be hired away from the Rams over the span of 17 head coaches or some such. You had one decent coach in Sonny and the a bunch of burnouts. McElwain was lighting in a bottle, and he is gone. To the back of the line you guys go.
Yeah. Hopefully, csu will screw this hire up royally. :wink2:
I was considering it - and I think it's to CU's advantage that CSU is successful in both football and basketball. As long as we're more successful.
If we're ever actually in the situation where our OOC schedule is actually up for scrutiny - assuming that we will always have the RMS to deal with - it would look better if we're playing a team in the mid 40s at least, instead of 110th.
Of course in basketball it goes without saying that you want all your opponents to have as high an RPI as possible.
If we're ever actually in the situation where our OOC schedule is actually up for scrutiny - assuming that we will always have the RMS to deal with - it would look better if we're playing a team in the mid 40s at least, instead of 110th.
Of course in basketball it goes without saying that you want all your opponents to have as high an RPI as possible.
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Another way to think about it is that this $7M buy-out covers half of the subsidy that CSU contributes to the CSU AD each year.
CSU would have to get the Florida deal two times each year...every year...to operate in the black.
Source of subsidy: collegead.org
CSU athletic budget
Rev$ 25.372M
Expense$ 25.948M
Subsidy$ 14.125M, 48% of revenue.
CSU's potential future AD (current interim AD)
Does his mother know what he is doing?
He's a goober
Wow, bigger forehead than PFMCSU's potential future AD (current interim AD)
Yep. Dude's got a fivehead.
I am far from a CSU apologist, but lets get our facts straight. As I understand it, Earl Bruce left to coach Ohio State after unprecedented CSU success in 1992. Lubick took over in 1993 and stayed with great relative success until he had so many coaches leave from underneath him and he got old, so that **** got bad and he made an ungraceful transition to retirement. Fairchild took over, who sucked, and then Sparkles. Far different from a spin of "Only one coach in the last X number of years left for a better job".
Earle Bruce came to CSU after getting fired at OSU, not the other way around. Some doof named Sark Arslanian was the coach prior to that.