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How the South Shakes out if...

SkoBuff4344 said:
What if we win out against Zona (bball hopefully will set the tone in Tucsan) and beat our “rivals” the Utes meanwhile USC also rolls though the rest of their schedule unblemished. They end up being 5-0, 5 conference wins, 4 wins in the south. while we’re 5-0 as well with only 4 conference wins and 3 in the South. Our non-con W over SDSU would screw us in all the tiebreakers right? Which is BS since we lost a out a conference game due to USC not being able to field enough guys (The NFL would have made them play their female lacrosse team on the oline)... In this event, we simply need to let our christmas spirit lift our voices high to the tops of USC so we can peek Mike Bohn’s interest to do the right thing for the very same Buffs that he f**** with Hawkins, and sing so loud our voices ring to all the way to the Bay in SF and Larry Scott’s, tiny little heart grows and give us a nationally televised pac-12 South play-in game against the Trojans. With the winner taking on Washington or Oregon from the North, to reign Pac-12 supreme and earn the conference’s first playoff spot in a while with us as the 7-0 Pac-12 champ!!

Obviously a lot of what-ifs here and we still have two football games we need to win. Just realistically thinking ahead to what a **** sandwich it would be to not get a shot winning the South when the Trojans cancelled our game due to their rule breaking and waited until Thirsday when the UW/ Utah game had already been scheduled, forcing us to go non-con and now be just 1 of 2 pac-12 teams to beat SDSU in their last 7 games against the conference.
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So let me get this straight, your worry is we go undefeated, and go to a bowl game with a big chip on our shoulder and something to prove?
 
Don't we win the South by default if USC's outbreak keeps them out another week because they're not within the average number of games played in the division?
 
4thGenBuff said:
So let me get this straight, your worry is we go undefeated, and go to a bowl game with a big chip on our shoulder and something to prove?
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Yes. I’m all about the division Champ banners. Loved being the perrennial Big12 runner-up via the JV North in the early 2000s. But if we were to win out and don’t win the South, I guess we can still hang a banner. Scotty Frost did it at UCF.
 
ahoelsken said:
Don't we win the South by default if USC's outbreak keeps them out another week because they're not within the average number of games played in the division?
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Assuming that, you know, we actually play and win the games left on our schedule.
 
ahoelsken said:
Don't we win the South by default if USC's outbreak keeps them out another week because they're not within the average number of games played in the division?
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No, they've played 1 more conference game than us, they can miss the Wazzu game and be fine. Actually that's more of a risk for us if one of our opponents bail.
 
Jeric said:
No, they've played 1 more conference game than us, they can miss the Wazzu game and be fine. Actually that's more of a risk for us if one of our opponents bail.
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That's been moved back a day. Conference did the same thing with Utah-ASU........and we saw what happened there.
 
ahoelsken said:
That's been moved back a day. Conference did the same thing with Utah-ASU........and we saw what happened there.
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Not sure what your point is, they don't need that game, which is what I said. The minimum requirement is likely to be 4, in which case they only need to play UCLA next week. We have to play both our remaining games to reach 4.
 
Just listened to Yogi on a podcast and he said his understanding of the way it is going to work changed over the weekend and USC would be the South champs if we both win out because they have a better record due to more conference wins. Not how I think the rules read but I’d guess he got that straight from the conference.
 
Jeric said:
Not sure what your point is, they don't need that game, which is what I said. The minimum requirement is likely to be 4, in which case they only need to play UCLA next week. We have to play both our remaining games to reach 4.
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Not really trying to make one TBH. That's relevant to us-but it probably doesn't belong here.
 
ahoelsken said:
Not really trying to make one TBH. That's relevant to us-but it probably doesn't belong here.
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You're the one who asked the question of if we win the South by default "if USC's outbreak keeps them out another week", which the answer is clearly no even in a scenario where we win out.
 
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Looking at the CFP rankings, I'd say the only way we win the South is if USC loses to Wazzu or UCLA.

We're not jumping them.
 
dwyermj said:
Just listened to Yogi on a podcast and he said his understanding of the way it is going to work changed over the weekend and USC would be the South champs if we both win out because they have a better record due to more conference wins. Not how I think the rules read but I’d guess he got that straight from the conference.
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Translation: The Pac doesn't want us in the CCG.
 
Quarantini said:
Any insight which bowl game is most likely if we lose this weekend?
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Only 4 left with Pac 12 tie ins... One projection I've seen is Alamo vs Iowa State, but I assume that's if we are 5-0. If USC wins and then beats UW/Oregon in CCG, those two would have at least 2 losses, so Alamo still seems likely. If UW beast USC in CCG, and CU loses to Utah, feel like it's Armed Forces vs SEC.
 
The conference would rather have 2 teams ranked than 1 team ranked.
If we play sc in the championship game the looser most likely falls out of the top 25.

I dont think sc get by fUCLA this weekend, anyway.
 
BUFFS14 said:
The conference would rather have 2 teams ranked than 1 team ranked.
If we play sc in the championship game the looser most likely falls out of the top 25.

I dont think sc get by fUCLA this weekend, anyway.
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I don't know about that. The SC team I saw on Sunday looked like they had their act together. By far the best performance I've seen by an SC team in a long time. It should be a pretty good game actually.
 
If USC beats UCLA and CU beats Utah, SC is likely in the top 10 and CU is top 20 (maybe top 15). Far more attractive Pac 12 Championship Game than the alternative, and the loser isn't dropping out of the top 25.
 
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