The difference here is Julmisse's court proceedings may drag out for some time. Tupou had charges dropped and a suspension within 3-4 months.
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Julmisse arrested Thursday, court appearance Friday - dismissed from the team
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The difference here is Julmisse's court proceedings may drag out for some time. Tupou had charges dropped and a suspension within 3-4 months.
Honestly, I don't even care about football for him right now.
It's not like he's wearing an electronic ankle bracelet, nor is he imprisoned. The only impediment to his leaving now is the need to make a few court appearances in Boulder. Another good idea for him is to stay in school at CU, take this as a redshirt year, then move on to Northern Colo, Montana State, or some other FCS program that will let him in.
He is on bond right now and may very well be in pre-trial supervision with the second arrest. He does not get to just leave for anywhere because he is out of jail and is not wearing an ankle monitor. I am really glad he presumably has a lawyer advising him and not you.
Yeah but that's a Boulder lawyer and we all know they are out to get football players.
Also with Tupou it was one incident if IRC. Julmisse would have been in a completely different situation if it had just been the first incident.
No. It was not just one incident IRC.
It wasn't intended to be legal advice, just football/education advice.
They're all linked at the moment. He needs to focus on taking care of his obligations as the legal process plays out. The best way he can do that is being in Boulder.
I'll trust you on that Duff; you likely know more about the workings of the Boulder County judicial world than I do. My first default though is to always to assume that a kid is getting screwed by the School/City/County. From Buff history. I sure hope for a good outcome for AJ in life, college, and football, in that order.
It is more about using some common sense. Two cases is going to potentially involve several court dates, along with potential proactive and reactive remedies to resolve the cases. He made some mistakes and put himself in an undesirable position, he just needs to focus on rectifying those mistakes and moving forward.
The Boulder DAs and judicial system is filled with a bunch of libtards! There, I said it for you!
He's undoubtedly reading this forum and saying to himself "self, random internet guy's advice seems solid. That's what I'll do."
only the 4 or 5* posters, though.
He damn well better, he's up against it now.
Don't get me wrong. My advice to him would still be to get out of CU/Boulder/Boulder County ASAP. Just be sure to appear at all of the hearings and keep your classwork in order. You've kind of screwed up your present, just don't screw up your future. The only reason this topic is relevant on a football board is that the guy seems to have a pretty high talent quotient and can possibly be a candidate at the next level. Like a lot of things in life, it's about money. Just seems to me that his future is more non-CU and it is about CU. I'll always go with the players than the "local legal culture", which generally sucks.
This has nothing to do with the local legal culture, the first incident was widely viewed as a misunderstanding with multiple insiders saying it would be dropped but there is no way in hell anyone can blame the second incident on Boulder, liberals or any other factor. This isn't hard to understand, he is sitting out this season regardless since he hasn't used his redshirt so it makes no sense to leave right now. Going to juco makes no sense when he can take classes at front range and be there for his court dates. If he gets is reaolved this semester then he can transfer for the spring semester wherever he wants and if the school gives him a reasonable punishment he could possibly be back next summer after a year suspension. Seems unlikely he will be back but mac has done a good job with these situations.
I'm not contradicting myself. I just place the player's athletic/academic interests above CU's interests. My only change from my earlier posts is that now I don't think he necessarily has to bolt out of Boulder this year. But if he stays at CU/Boulder/Boulder Co long term, he's going to be overly scrutinized and stigmatized by the cabal up there.
Where this happened has absolutely zero to do with why the kid is in trouble. There is a thing called personal responsibility and accountability. Running away from the problem is literally the worst advice possible. As a young man, sometimes (or a lot of times) you learn the hard way. The best thing this kid can do, IMO, is accept that he's made some bad choices, and do everything in his power to learn from them and let them mold him into a better person. Learn that he needs to put himself in better situations, and avoiding bad/no win situations. Learn that he needs to step back and think and cool his head before he does anything rash or foolish when he does end up in a bad situation.
Running away just says "hey, it wasn't me who was wrong here, it was Boulder/the victims/CU/anything but me." That's not personal progress, that's just refusing to take ownership and learn valuable hard lessons from mistakes.
Your "only change" is an acknowledgement your other posts were predicated on ****ty advice to make incredibly rash decisions? We are starting to move toward agreement.
That all sounds good and I generally agree in the abstract, but if he was at Tennessee, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, or almost any of the G5 or FCS schools in the south or mid-Atlantic, this stuff would be a relative non-starter. Again, my premise in these CU episodes will usually be that the kid is getting screwed by the power structure up there. While I've been a Buff fan since 1967, my outlook has been cemented by the Barnett Era Fake Scandal. But as I said before I've changed my mind on the idea that he should just bolt ASAP. Stay and show up at hearings, tell the truth, get your CU credits, don't believe anything that anyone at CU says to you, and transfer when you're in the clear. It's always interesting to me that many posters here put the interests of CU football above the interests of these kids. If Toupu and Kofavalu (not that they were Boy Scouts) had transferred when they could have, their NFL prospects would have possibly have turned out better.
Yes, it is always better to avoid responsibility for one's mistakes.
The locations mentioned above would only treat the felonies as non starters because in those locations the authorities PROTECT football players if they do dumb ****. The authorities put football interests above all else.
So now we are lamenting how Kafovalu and Tupou were wronged because PAHI thinks their NFL chances were possibly irreparably harmed... but PAHI is the only one more concerned about the players outside of football.
No. I'm more concerned about their football futures outside of CU. Not that CU should have kissed their asses. Just that they'd have possibly played more (and gotten better)
somewhere else after their troubles at CU. Actually, would have been better for the players AND CU. Not rocket science Duff. FCS and JUCO have more than a few high profile tranfers every year that have migrated down from D-1 due to real or alleged transgressions.
That is true.