GoBuffs08
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Even if all criminal charges are dropped I suspect he will get crushed by the CU kangaroo court and best case is suspended for half the season.
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Julmisse arrested Thursday, court appearance Friday - dismissed from the team
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Even if all criminal charges are dropped I suspect he will get crushed by the CU kangaroo court and best case is suspended for half the season.
darth-horax
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For the love of poop, let the man go....stinking woman....bleh...
Brett Fulton
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Not sure what the statute says in CO, but in CA the contact must be willful (clearly met) and unlawful (not clearly met, would be an issue for the trier of fact). There are two stories here as to the basis for the "contact." Not a forgone conclusion that a crime occurred by any stretch. Would likely depend on what the independent third party witnesses had to say. But certainly, because of the prior relationship, the allegation would fit within the domestic violence category.
This was true in the late 90s. I have not seen anything suggesting it has changed.
AllStarBuffs
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Any new news? Still laughing about the phone in the creek lolzzzzz
Sadly in situations like this that often doesn't happen.
Take a young man who has kept his nose clean, hasn't had experience with the police in potentially negative situations. Add that his emotions are keyed way up because he was just involved in a highly emotional incident and he isn't thinking about how his words could be used against him. Officer with some experience sounds like he is just trying figure out what happened and the young man wants to help. End result is a statement that makes it sound like he did much worse than he did and the charges to go with it.
Yeah. It turned out to be somewhere between a strongly worded conversation and a chucking of a phone into a creek.
I'm still laughing at your inability to read.
Julmisse's statement isn't too damaging, it's not an admission. Those who say simply laying hands on someone is a crime are ignoring other elements like intent and injury.
In my experience, it is the rare person who can actually remain silent under interrogation. Mobsters (Italian) won't talk after an arrest just because it's been drilled into them. Most everyone else will. I once represented an NYPD sergeant who made incriminating statements after being arrested by the FBI. When I confronted him with just how stupid this was, he said, "you know how they are, they get you to talk." I could've slapped him.
Carefully, with some PDs that will get you charges.
I hope AJs statement isn't too damaging. If all goes as it should this whole thing will eventually end up as little to nothing since I think that is what it actually was.
For someone in your position though it has to be frustrating representing someone who you can tell just got caught up in the moment and because they don't have the experience end up saying things that put them in a much worse situation than they should be.
I got interrogated by 2 investigators for the Inspector General. I sang like canary. A canary with a dry mouth. When you get interrogated, make sure you have water.
jizzrag85
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Yes, same thing the police told me. They took me because I committed "false imprisonment" regardless of my exes behavior.
While I understand the law and certainly respect women.... It would be nice if a judge were to step back and look at the big picture here. College kids, nobody was injured, neither one wants to press charges. No harm no foul. All charges dropped - Probation for both, no get out the courtroom and behave. The lesson to be learned has been learned already by both parties - handing out stiff penalties and negatively impacting their future would serve good to no one.
You are right that this case doesn't justify giving somebody a record. Go with reduced charges then accept a deferred judgement. No further incidents in the next 6 months, maybe see an anger management counselor for a couple sessions, and all charges get dropped.
It would be nice to see the DA do something, making this one sided seems a little messed up.
**** that! Drop the damned charges!
He likely cannot plead guilty to anything, w/o severe CU consequences. The DA might agree to "diversion", where no criminal guilt is admitted, but the person writes a letter of apology, does an anger class, some community service and stays out of trouble for 6 months or so. Case is then dismissed. These are fairly common. Earlier this year I had an 80 year-old couple. She slapped him and he joked about calling 911. She said "go ahead", he did, then hung up. She spent 2 nights in jail. I called/emailed the DA and they agreed to diversion, before she ever appeared in court. And, there was no charge by me.
People misunderstand the role of a judge in American criminal law. The judge has no power to dismiss or reduce charges (unless the pleadings are insufficient in some way.) This power lies solely with the prosecutor (which is how they like it.) Many prosecutors are reasonable people, willing to work out fair outcomes. Many may not be reasonable, but understand the worth of a case based on the likelihood of what will happen if it doesn't get resolved. It's those who are neither reasonable or smart enough to know what a case is worth you have to look out for.
jizzrag85
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If he's a first time offender and they find out through investigation it wasn't a violent crime he will get diversion. Unless someone in boulder is a CSU fan and wants to stick it to him. He will get anger management classes, probation (weekly/monthly) meetings and pay some fines and then they will expunge it if you're good and complete all of that. If they find it was violent, they will charge him to the full extent.
Well, even if we have a "reasonable" prosecutor who drops the charges for whatever reason, whether there are charges or not in the Boulder courts does not have much influence with the CU student conduct committee, or whatever they are called. They could still chose to expel him if they want and there is no means of appeal that I'm aware of.
I've been buried with work and depressed after the Alamo Bowl debacle that I spent thousands to witness firsthand. I wanted to comment on this thread, however...
1) I am sad for AJ. From the accounts we're seeing now, it appears that he was trying to be a good person in a bad situation. Given his prominence as a CU Football Player, the microscope has made the situation worse. On a human level, I feel badly for him since this will likely follow him around even if he is exonerated. At the very least, it is a nagging question that he'll have to explain. I don't want to start imagining the bad end of outcomes.
2) AJ has (hopefully) learned something many of us should remember: crazy women are the best lays, but rarely does it end well. His ex wanted to tell him off even more AFTER she left from their first argument. She probably was unhinged when she suspected the new girlfriend hanging out in the crib. None of this is reasonable behavior.
I hope that this matter is resolved quickly and justice is served.
1) I am sad for AJ. From the accounts we're seeing now, it appears that he was trying to be a good person in a bad situation. Given his prominence as a CU Football Player, the microscope has made the situation worse. On a human level, I feel badly for him since this will likely follow him around even if he is exonerated. At the very least, it is a nagging question that he'll have to explain. I don't want to start imagining the bad end of outcomes.
2) AJ has (hopefully) learned something many of us should remember: crazy women are the best lays, but rarely does it end well. His ex wanted to tell him off even more AFTER she left from their first argument. She probably was unhinged when she suspected the new girlfriend hanging out in the crib. None of this is reasonable behavior.
I hope that this matter is resolved quickly and justice is served.
I'd hope so too, but this is CU and this is Boulder so it's highly unlikely that it will be resolved quickly and unlikely that justice will be served. As I've said here earlier, IMO AJ needs to set his sights on another venue while this is playing out, regardless of the outcome. If Miss State is reaching, out that's not a bad outcome. I am truly a Buff fan but I can't stand to see these kids get screwed by the system up there. And the coaches are victims too, which is why I'm sure most of them have one foot out the door at all times.
**** you. Again.
It is in the interest of the overworked assistant DA who gets this misdemeanor case to resolve the case sooner rather than later.
I hope so. That would sure go against the trend up there...
I live in the real world. Give it a try some time.
I'm sure the DA will find time for a CU football player.
I think they believe there is some sort of connection to Jon Bonet's murder.