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Julmisse arrested Thursday, court appearance Friday - dismissed from the team

Couldn't she be charged with trespassing and harassment? One thing that would go a long way in reducing potentially violent situations would be to make it clear that the instigating party will be held and charged as well. They best way to prevent confrontation is to not start it. This goes for both parties. If a guy went to chew out his ex in person, he should have some consequences, likewise if she was the one causing the confrontation she should also face consequences. Assault doesn't require contact, if you threaten someone that is assault as well.
 
Colorado is a shall arrest state in cases of DV provided that there is probable cause that a crime occurred. The cops have no discretion. Just because the cops are called to a report of DV does not mean that someone will be arrested.

If you are arrested in Colorado and charged without DV, you will not be able to bond out of jail until you are seen by a judge. Those implying that the charges are serious because of the lack of a bond are way off base.

Probable cause for arrest does not equal guilt. Probable cause means more likely than not. The cops respond and make a decision based upon the facts available to them at the time. The victim not wanting to press charges or not is irrelevant at the time of the arrest. This was put into place to protect battered spouses given the psychological component of DV.

If the victim does not want to cooperate, there is a high likelihood that the DA will not proceed with the case unless there is independent evidence to corroborate the victim's story.

Cliff notes: chill out and wait for the facts to come out.
 
The problem here comes in AJ or any P5 football player (except at places like Baylor or Nebraska) facing two different standards of judgement.

@BuffsNYC knows more about the standards and practices of the criminal court system in a case like this than I ever will and I agree that with the little we have to go on this doesn't seem like a big deal, certainly not a serious outcome in the criminal courts.

The other side though is that major college football players are by nature celebrities. If this had happened to some kid from Illinois on a partial academic scholarship to study history it never makes the papers and outside of his immediate circle nobody ever knows it happened. For football players that doesn't happen in today's world.

In the criminal court it is innocent until proven guillty, in the court of public opinion the player has to disprove the impression from the initial report (that he engages in Domestic Violence) and even then it may not be enough to clear his name.

Based on recent events and the current climate CU will have to be very cautious with this case, as they should be. The one thing we can be sure of is that him missing some time away from the program is now going to be the minimum that will happen.

If it is shown that he did not engage in DV but rather was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and high emotions then I could see him coming back to the team but it won't be soon. They are not going to allow themselves to be pictured as letting a player "get away" with DV in the public eye.
 
There's no such thing as "minor" domestic violence, especially now and especially for this program after the Tumpkin situation. Three ****ing days after they bring in Brenda Tracy to speak to the team about assault and respecting women, he does this ****. Man, the stupidity of some college kids never ceases to amaze me.

Yes, there is. Minor domestic violence happens all the time, in ridiculous forms. Now the disclaimer to that is that domestic violence in any form isn't okay. Part of growing up is distancing yourself from ever letting these situations even happen to you. You should never let anger get the best of you to the point that someone feels the need to call the cops.

But on my topic, Best friend got domestic violence because his ex GF started a fire of his belongings on his front yard when they broke up. The cops were called by neighbors while he just stood there on his porch, but they both got charged. I call that minor in the sense that he actually did nothing but was charged for being on the scene of an argument he didn't even ask for.

I broke up with my ex fiancée 6 years ago. Peacefully tries to explain to her why it wasn't working for me. I left for the grocery store and came back and she had gotten sloppy drunk and started screaming at me, then she started throwing stuff at me...slapped me, hit, kicked and scratched my neck and face, screamed some more, threw more ****. Then she proceeded to go outside to smoke and I locked her on the porch of our apartment. She realized it immediately and I told her to cool the hell down. After about 6-7 minutes I let her back in. She came in and grabbed a butcher knife and she started screaming as loudly as I've ever heard anyone scream. Then cops came at that moment and kicked open the door guns pointed. Now I'm sure everyone here will immediately think I'm lying when I say this... I never did a single thing, I just stood there, half the time I was on the phone with my sister asking what I should do to stop her because I'm not a cop caller. I'm not a fighter. But here's the best part, they arrested me for locking her outside for 7ish minutes for "false imprisonment." I was sent to jail, sent to anger management classes (which were actually awesome and insightful) and probation. They took me off once I finished my classes and expunged all the charges. The situation was major, but my charge was hilariously stupid. I was bleeding, scratched all over and she was falling over drunk and holding a knife.

Anyways, that was long. I guess the point I'm making is that we don't know what happened and sometimes the charged isn't actually the one at fault so we can't judge too quickly. Also, sometimes in cases where the charges can sound major it's nothing more than somebody over fabricating a situation. Either way, julmisse needs anger management classes and hopefully this is a life lesson, it was for me. I walk away from every situation at the first sense of escalation (which is almost non-existent anyways.) But if he did anything violent or abusive he has to go and he needs to pay the price to the law. I hope for his sake it isn't true because his future is at stake. But also because I hope that there wasn't a victim here, I never want to see anyone go through the crap I did. I got my ass kicked and just took it. I know how awful it is to be in that situation and not sure what you can do to stop it, it's a nightmare.
 
Yes, there is. Minor domestic violence happens all the time, in ridiculous forms. Now the disclaimer to that is that domestic violence in any form isn't okay. Part of growing up is distancing yourself from ever letting these situations even happen to you. You should never let anger get the best of you to the point that someone feels the need to call the cops.

But on my topic, Best friend got domestic violence because his ex GF started a fire of his belongings on his front yard when they broke up. The cops were called by neighbors while he just stood there on his porch, but they both got charged. I call that minor in the sense that he actually did nothing but was charged for being on the scene of an argument he didn't even ask for.

I broke up with my ex fiancée 6 years ago. Peacefully tries to explain to her why it wasn't working for me. I left for the grocery store and came back and she had gotten sloppy drunk and started screaming at me, then she started throwing stuff at me...slapped me, hit, kicked and scratched my neck and face, screamed some more, threw more ****. Then she proceeded to go outside to smoke and I locked her on the porch of our apartment. She realized it immediately and I told her to cool the hell down. After about 6-7 minutes I let her back in. She came in and grabbed a butcher knife and she started screaming as loudly as I've ever heard anyone scream. Then cops came at that moment and kicked open the door guns pointed. Now I'm sure everyone here will immediately think I'm lying when I say this... I never did a single thing, I just stood there, half the time I was on the phone with my sister asking what I should do to stop her because I'm not a cop caller. I'm not a fighter. But here's the best part, they arrested me for locking her outside for 7ish minutes for "false imprisonment." I was sent to jail, sent to anger management classes (which were actually awesome and insightful) and probation. They took me off once I finished my classes and expunged all the charges. The situation was major, but my charge was hilariously stupid. I was bleeding, scratched all over and she was falling over drunk and holding a knife.

Anyways, that was long. I guess the point I'm making is that we don't know what happened and sometimes the charged isn't actually the one at fault so we can't judge too quickly. Also, sometimes in cases where the charges can sound major it's nothing more than somebody over fabricating a situation. Either way, julmisse needs anger management classes and hopefully this is a life lesson, it was for me. I walk away from every situation at the first sense of escalation (which is almost non-existent anyways.) But if he did anything violent or abusive he has to go and he needs to pay the price to the law. I hope for his sake it isn't true because his future is at stake. But also because I hope that there wasn't a victim here, I never want to see anyone go through the crap I did. I got my ass kicked and just took it. I know how awful it is to be in that situation and not sure what you can do to stop it, it's a nightmare.
Mods, please change Buffsrock85's handle to Mountain Jr.
 
Mods, please change Buffsrock85's handle to Mountain Jr.

I know you're joking but it's serious. That wasn't the only time she went crazy on me. She shifted my car into park on the highway while drunk because she was angry. But, you love the person so you hope they change their ways.
 
Yes, there is. Minor domestic violence happens all the time, in ridiculous forms. Now the disclaimer to that is that domestic violence in any form isn't okay. Part of growing up is distancing yourself from ever letting these situations even happen to you. You should never let anger get the best of you to the point that someone feels the need to call the cops.

But on my topic, Best friend got domestic violence because his ex GF started a fire of his belongings on his front yard when they broke up. The cops were called by neighbors while he just stood there on his porch, but they both got charged. I call that minor in the sense that he actually did nothing but was charged for being on the scene of an argument he didn't even ask for.

I broke up with my ex fiancée 6 years ago. Peacefully tries to explain to her why it wasn't working for me. I left for the grocery store and came back and she had gotten sloppy drunk and started screaming at me, then she started throwing stuff at me...slapped me, hit, kicked and scratched my neck and face, screamed some more, threw more ****. Then she proceeded to go outside to smoke and I locked her on the porch of our apartment. She realized it immediately and I told her to cool the hell down. After about 6-7 minutes I let her back in. She came in and grabbed a butcher knife and she started screaming as loudly as I've ever heard anyone scream. Then cops came at that moment and kicked open the door guns pointed. Now I'm sure everyone here will immediately think I'm lying when I say this... I never did a single thing, I just stood there, half the time I was on the phone with my sister asking what I should do to stop her because I'm not a cop caller. I'm not a fighter. But here's the best part, they arrested me for locking her outside for 7ish minutes for "false imprisonment." I was sent to jail, sent to anger management classes (which were actually awesome and insightful) and probation. They took me off once I finished my classes and expunged all the charges. The situation was major, but my charge was hilariously stupid. I was bleeding, scratched all over and she was falling over drunk and holding a knife.

Anyways, that was long. I guess the point I'm making is that we don't know what happened and sometimes the charged isn't actually the one at fault so we can't judge too quickly. Also, sometimes in cases where the charges can sound major it's nothing more than somebody over fabricating a situation. Either way, julmisse needs anger management classes and hopefully this is a life lesson, it was for me. I walk away from every situation at the first sense of escalation (which is almost non-existent anyways.) But if he did anything violent or abusive he has to go and he needs to pay the price to the law. I hope for his sake it isn't true because his future is at stake. But also because I hope that there wasn't a victim here, I never want to see anyone go through the crap I did. I got my ass kicked and just took it. I know how awful it is to be in that situation and not sure what you can do to stop it, it's a nightmare.
What did the ex get charged with?

Also, much respect. I would have flipped my ****.
 
What did the ex get charged with?

Also, much respect. I would have flipped my ****.

She got absolutely nothing. I was blown away. The cop told me on the way to jail, "I know it's kind of ridiculous but the boss was there and he decided that you broke the law so we needed to take you." Because DV isn't breaking the law.

Fairly absurd. But it makes for a funny story considering my sister was on the phone listening to almost the entire situation.
 
She got absolutely nothing. I was blown away. The cop told me on the way to jail, "I know it's kind of ridiculous but the boss was there and he decided that you broke the law so we needed to take you." Because DV isn't breaking the law.

Fairly absurd. But it makes for a funny story considering my sister was on the phone listening to almost the entire situation.
I would have pressed charges on her. Because **** that ****.
 
News 4 just ran the story. I'm even more convinced charges will be dropped. First, sounds like she originally didn't want to call police and waited a couple of days before she did. Second, she has no bruises or any marks. Third, they'd been broken up for a couple of months and she went to his place and confronted him. Finally, his story somewhat matches her's other than she claims he dragged her down the hall by the arm and he says he took her by the arm and walked her down the hall. No way in hell will the cops be able to prove any wrong doing on his part unless there are witnesses.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
 
Suppose no charges dropped, anyone think Julmisse will get off easy with MacIntyre?
 
Suppose no charges dropped, anyone think Julmisse will get off easy with MacIntyre?
I think mac will be very understanding and let it play out. He is not a kid that doesn't put off an attitude and seems like he was trying to get her out and leave the situation. We will see though.
 
This incident was a complete non issue that got blown out of proportion. The only regret is that AJ got in trouble at all and is forced to miss time. ****ing ridiculous.
 
Why, I didn't see Buffrock85 blaming Hillary Clinton for this.
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This player is a criminal abuser. Should be kicked off the team same as what was said for a Nebraska player on this board.

Just saying **** happens to all programs some time or another.

Good luck to the young man.


Oh, and I blame both H. Clinton and Obama for this.
And your best recruiter is a raging alcoholic who doesn't know how to use an Uber app.
 
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