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Julmisse arrested Thursday, court appearance Friday - dismissed from the team

buffs04 said:
pahibuff logic:

Boulder = libruls,
libruls = bad, therefore
Boulder = bad
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Not at all. Many of the "fans" here want to keep these guys around only for football performance reasons, regardless of the bull**** the kid has to go through. That's not just short sighted, it's reprehensible. If the story is as reported he was trying to prevent a fight, not to hurt the ex-girlfriend. BTW, Boulder sucks because it's predictable and boring, not because it's liberal.
 
PAHIBuff said:
OK. Restatement: If the incident is as he reported it, the minute he is "cleared" he needs to head for better pastures ASAP. Don't you guys see that African American student athletes in Boulder are pretty much guilty until proven innocent? You can deride schools like Nebraska and Tennessee that admittedly have their shares of bad actors, and err on the other side of this issue, but in PC Boulder, African American football players are in the cross hairs.
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That's just absurd. Stop.
 
I would argue that punishing these kids when they screw up is more fair to them than it would be to turn a blind eye to it. But maybe thats just me.
 
I still hold to my assertion that it won't matter what actually happened. Even if completely exonerated, the mere hint of domestic violence in the wake of the Joe Tumpkin situation spells the end for Julmisse at CU.
 
sackman said:
I still hold to my assertion that it won't matter what actually happened. Even if completely exonerated, the mere hint of domestic violence in the wake of the Joe Tumpkin situation spells the end for Julmisse at CU.
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That'll be a brutal lesson for Julmisse but could be a good one for him especially if he does well in a different place.
 
bombay said:
It would be interesting to hear what the other woman who was apparently there has to say.
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So, basically, a girl that AJ dated for a short period of time 4-5+ months ago, got wind of him dating someone else and got mad. She came over to his place to tell him off and after leaving once on her own, came back for more confrontation. She became upset and AJ tried getting her out of the apartment by taking her by the arm and walking her out. She then became hysterical and the police were called. Is that the jist of it? Sounds like pretty standard college drama to me with absolutely nothing egregious to me. The girl even said she didn't want to press charges or have the police involved.

Am I really supposed to believe this is grounds for sending AJ packing for good? Gimme a ****ing break.
 
Here's a weird thought: is it domestic violence if he's no longer in a relationship with her?
 
sackman said:
I still hold to my assertion that it won't matter what actually happened. Even if completely exonerated, the mere hint of domestic violence in the wake of the Joe Tumpkin situation spells the end for Julmisse at CU.
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I really hope that's not true.
 
This stuff goes down frequently. Some say there are even groupies they've run into with multiple professional athletes in town, punching and hitting said athletes. I've heard cops tell of Incredible restraint shown by men who could break the ladies easily. The really unfortunate thing is it probably does cause some callousness towards legitimate complaints which has helped drive the zero tolerance, someone is leaving in the back of the cop car policies of some forces. I feel for the cops trying to sort through this chaos.
 
sackman said:
I still hold to my assertion that it won't matter what actually happened. Even if completely exonerated, the mere hint of domestic violence in the wake of the Joe Tumpkin situation spells the end for Julmisse at CU.
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I wouldn't go that far, but everything probably gets kicked up a notch. If he's completely exonerated, he's gone for the year. If there's a whiff of wrongdoing, he's going and there's no option to return.
 
Duff Man said:
How exactly was Julmisse targeted in this case?
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I'm with you. It's the times in which we live. Even if you clearly don't intend to hurt someone, if it is a woman you can't put your hands on her at all. Even if she's punching and kicking you, you better hope that the only injuries to her are on her knuckles when the cops show up. Grabbing her by the arm to diffuse the situation is assault in our current age. Just as falling into bed drunk off your ass with someone is rape in our current age. AJ has been educated on this and should have known better. And I hope all this was ends up being the way a bouncer would escort someone out of a bar and nothing more than that.
 
This provides a little bit of a different perspective. He didn't throw her down the stairs but he didn't gently usher her away from his apartment either. He handled it very poorly and he'll be lucky to get another chance at CU.

"A woman who claims to have been in a relationship with Julmisse told police she confronted him at his apartment in Boulder after learning Julmisse was in a relationship with someone else. She alleged that during the course of a heated argument in the hallway outside his apartment, Julmisse pulled her away from his door by her forearms and then pushed her in the back, which caused her to stumble down some stairs.

After leaving the area, the woman called university police to report the incident. She had no visible injuries and did not want to press charges, however Colorado law requires police to take action in domestic violence cases."

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...misse-suspended-indefinitely-following-arrest
 
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SerenityBuff said:
This provides a little bit of a different perspective. He didn't throw her down the stairs but he didn't gently usher her away from his apartment either. He handled it very poorly and he'll be lucky to get another chance at CU.

"A woman who claims to have been in a relationship with Julmisse told police she confronted him at his apartment in Boulder after learning Julmisse was in a relationship with someone else. She alleged that during the course of a heated argument in the hallway outside his apartment, Julmisse pulled her away from his door by her forearms and then pushed her in the back, which caused her to stumble down some stairs.

After leaving the area, the woman called university police to report the incident. She had no visible injuries and did not want to press charges, however Colorado law requires police to take action in domestic violence cases."

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...misse-suspended-indefinitely-following-arrest
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Sounds like she called the cops at least in part as retribution. Mac's in a pickle. Especially considering what he was dragged through in the off season.
 
DBT said:
Sounds like she called the cops at least in part as retribution. Mac's in a pickle. Especially considering what he was dragged through in the off season.
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Seems like University policy already dictated that DV is grounds for automatic dismissal, before the Tumpkin incident. The school needs to be careful here in reverse discrimination against Males wrongly accused (if you are suggesting that AJ would be dismissed if found innocent). There's two sides of that coin, and we don't yet know which side Julmisse is on. But I don't see how the Tumpkin incident should be allowed to enter into this.
 
AJ made some bad choices here, no doubt. Instead of just locking his door and calling the police he tried to physically make her leave. You just can’t put your hands on someone in this manner. He needed to be the adult in the situation, and he wasn’t. Still…………after reading the story in the DC, I still can’t help but feeling bad for Julmisse. It was a bad situation to be put in. If the reverse would have happened (he went to down to her apartment in a fit of jealous rage, and he had to be physically removed from the premises, he still would have been one who was arrested, charged with DV and trespassing to boot. It’s as if, whoever can inflict the most physical harm hypothetically is the one who is automatically at fault. Yes, I recognize, that the police/laws need to protect the party who is or was in danger. It’s just a frustrating situation.
 
I've always heard that in a case like this the cops always take someone to jail then sort it out later. So, I guess we'll have to wait it out while they do their sorting.
 
DBT said:
I've always heard that in a case like this the cops always take someone to jail then sort it out later. So, I guess we'll have to wait it out while they do their sorting.
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They take at least person to jail because they are bound by Colorado law to do so in DV incidents.

Bail was set this afternoon and his next court date in September 1st.
 
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