The first time he touched the ball (on a fumbled punt return) he scored a touchdown. MM had some decent qualities, but refusing to play freshman showed he could never sustain success at the P5 level.
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LaViska Declares for NFL Draft.
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hawg1
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Meaning that the letter will positively impact them?
I think it gives them something else positive to think about other than the limited interactions that they’ve had with him. The guys drafting players want dudes who will lay it all on the line. Everyone who plays in the NFL has talent. Drive is what separates the wheat from the chaff. Viska is telling them that he’s willing to sacrifice his body because he loves football and his family. They love that shyt.
hawg1
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Gotcha. Fair points. He needs to change narrative. Injury, route running, mental, maturity, biggest chance for WR bust are dings.
I think he goes low 50s. wouldn’t bet on it though.
Maybe. He will need his representatives to get on the horn and make his case to as many decision makers as possible in the next 30 hours. He could be a top 40 pick if the right team gets the itch.
Something else to consider... In 2018, he averaged 11.4 touches per game, and that includes all the games after the 5-0 start where he was either playing hurt or had to limit playing time. Through the first 5 games he averaged almost 13 touches per game. In 2019, he averaged 7.1 touches per game, which again includes the multiple games where he basically didn't play.
Also, 30% of his touches last year were carries, compared to 16.5% in 2018. While this versatility is a big part of his value, no NFL team is going to give him an overall workload like that, let alone that many carries, almost all of which were in between the tackles.
Also, 30% of his touches last year were carries, compared to 16.5% in 2018. While this versatility is a big part of his value, no NFL team is going to give him an overall workload like that, let alone that many carries, almost all of which were in between the tackles.
somebody
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Yeah, but you do see end arounds and reverses, where a guy like Viska being able to run through arm tackles will make bank.
Yes, but maybe once a game on the high end, where he'll be running through CBs, not 5 carries/game up the middle against DL and LBs
You are correct on this.
NFL coaches will love his toughness and willingness to fight through people for the extra yards but they will be smarter about how they use him.
They will try to put him into positions where the tackle he is breaking is by a DB, not by a front seven guy, where the broken tackle means open field, not another line of defenders. The result should be that he stays healthier.
The play from Viska that sticks in my head is him running a route into the flat against the corn in their stadium and turning into the short inside zone. Montez as he was prone to to threw the ball high and inside. Viska stretched up and to the side and grabbed it but took a brutal hit in the ribs from the LB doing it.
That play shows that what he wrote in the letter is the truth. It also explains some of the injury issues he had at CU. Yes he is a highly physical player and there is some risk involved with that but a smart pro team will manage his play to maximize his big play potential without risking their "assets."
To put it in perspective, Tyreek Hill is probably the best "offensive weapon" in the NFL right now where he catches passes, carries the ball and returns punts. From a versatility standpoint, that's probably Viska's comp (although they are completely different in their physical abilities). In 2018, when Hill was completely healthy, he averaged 5.4 receptions/game and 1.3 carries/game for a total touch average of 6.7/game, not including PR/KR. Viska's workload in the league is going to be dramatically lower than it was at CU.
And if you watch the Chiefs offense they aren't running Hill into a bunch of big hits. They are trying to get him the ball in open space where he can break a tackle or beat a man and have room to run.
It should be, I don't know if his body could take it, different size and speed. Every once in awhile, use a package maybe. Other than that, tighten up the footwork and get your craft down. As many injuries as he's had, I wouldn't want him returning kicks or punts very often.
darth-horax
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I just hope he goes to a team with a cool jersey. I'd hate to have to buy a crappy looking jersey just to get his name on my back.
Probably his primary concern this morning as well.
pcbuff
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We couldn't have used him. We had the coaches son laying a foundation for a coaching career and carrying a scholarship and taking snaps. You know, the same coaches son that was talking **** to older class tight ends about how they didn't fit with his daddies system. Why would we want a game changing athlete on the field taking snaps from a clear D1 athlete like the coaches son.
I just can't let it go. Still makes me livid.
I feel as if there is a story here?
Big Jim
WTF?
There are still people around here that defend MacIntyre putting his son on scholarship and giving him playing time when Shenault rode pine.
Shenault definitely should've had more playing time as a freshman but MacIntyre was a solid player worthy of a scholarship. The playing time should've come from all over the board.
J Mac was a slot receiver too. Chev is to also blame on Laviska not playing as a freshman with his obsession with the blackout boyz.
Why don't you just buy a Laviska CU jersey?
Big Jim
WTF?
MacIntyre had one G5 football offer, Wyoming. His next best offer was from Liberty to play basketball. Daddy MacIntyre hotboxed the ST coach, a coach that owed him big time for giving him a P5 job that he was never qualified to receive, into giving saying his kid was worth a scholarship. MacIntyre NEVER should have been offered a scholarship out of high school, he should have been a walk-on. As a walk-on he should have been given the opportunity to earn a scholarship but there is NO argument that supports him getting a scholarship straight out of high school.
You're fixated on the scholarship offer list. Most P5 programs take a few kids with very few other P5 offers and especially at that time, CU is/was no different. He was a very solid, multi-year contributor and starter for the program. Go back and watch the Pac 12 South clinching game vs Utah in 2016 and see how important he was for that win. He turned out to be a pretty decent P5 player and far better than other guys who have come through this program with double digit P5 offers out of high school.
Big Jim
WTF?
None of that was knowable at the time he was given a free ride at CU. He was just an undersized CO prep kid who's daddy had the ability to give him a freebie at the time. That is the story. At the time, the company line was "he doesn't play QB" so it didn't matter. If he had earned a scholarship as a walk-on then God bless him, but he didn't, he was silver spooned to keep daddy happy at that point in time he was given the scholarship.
Ok, but since we have the benefit of hindsight, you should be able to acknowledge that he was definitely worth a scholarship. Go back and look at the 2014 class. MacIntyre ended up being the third best recruit in the entire class behind Fields and Spoon. The best non transfer recruits (rating wise) were Grant Watanebe and Isaac Miller who held a combined 4 P5 offers, 2 of which came from CU. You're acting like they chose MacIntyre over a bunch of recruits with a ton of P5 options simply because he was the coaches son.
I look at Lil Mac as I did Ryan Moeller. Someone who you offer a preferred walk-on position who you tell has a decent chance of receiving a scholarship down the road.
Its as simple as that. No way he gets a scholarship here if daddy is not the coach (I am not sure how you can argue otherwise). Lil Mac ended up just like Ryan Moeller in that he surpassed his rating and offer list. They both worked their asses off and deserved scholarships in the end.
Its as simple as that. No way he gets a scholarship here if daddy is not the coach (I am not sure how you can argue otherwise). Lil Mac ended up just like Ryan Moeller in that he surpassed his rating and offer list. They both worked their asses off and deserved scholarships in the end.
Big Jim
WTF?
You keep using hindsight as your reason for justifying the scholarship. The ends justify the means. That isn't how it works in like, you have to make a decision based on the information at hand and the information was that the coach should not have given his son a scholarship.
The other issue that was brought up to start the whole thread but get's lost in justifying MacIntyre's behavior is the fact that while the coaches son was getting playing time, racking up the stats you use to justify him, LAVISKA SHENAULT was sitting on the bench! In no world, no solar system, no universe can it be argued that MacIntyre's kid was the better option at WR over LaViska Shenault.
Viska and JMac played entirely different positions. If you want to make the argument that Nixon should have been playing over JMac, then okay, but saying Mac took playing time away from Viska is like saying Colby Purcell took playing time away from Frank Fillip last year. When looking at the rest of the 2014 class, you're fixated on MacIntyre, but refuse to acknowledge the rest of the class. Fields is the only recruit in the class that had more than 2 P5 offers (including CU) and he had a whopping five. Jay MacIntyre was on par with the caliber of player in that class and turned out to be one of the best.
pcbuff
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Yes. How many wins could LaViska have carried his teammates to? His shoulders are broad. When Mac was riding him to a contract extension, everyone in the stadium knew where the ball was going with him in the wildcat. And he still had the power to get the yards. He is a freakin stud who was benched as a freshman. Hindsight is twenty twenty and I don’t think anyone can claim He didn’t belong In the game over several players on the field the day he signed with CU.