These.
Faulkner hurt but I thought we could make a late surge without him. Allen is rough though. We needed him on the wing. I’m terrified this ends up with us going big in response which…..
You think that's more likely than playing 3 guards a lot?
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Lookin ahead to 2021-22
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You think that's more likely than playing 3 guards a lot?
I do purely because of Tad’s history. Personally, I’d go three guards and let Walker, Battey and Lovering rotate between the two big spots with DeSilva getting spot minutes. But my stance on PGs is well known (and almost a parody at this point).
Da Silva is getting more than spot minutes, IMO.
MarkW
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Da Silva plays "Tad ball." Nothing flashy, but he exicutes consistently both when the Buffs have the ball and when he's defending. He understand the offense and moves well without the ball. He works hard and is smart on defense. Doesn't make many mistakes.
I predict he'll be integral in many Buff wins this season.
I think he grows into an all-around scorer this season as well.
Luke
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Agreed that we’ll really miss Quincy’s size & D on the wing.
Agreed that Tristan will become scorer.
But Luke, Nique & Javon will be given every chance to show they can defend & rebound the 3 spot. Nique already showing he’s committed to D & Rbding. Javon is such a bull-dog; he’ll earn more minutes at 3-spot in 3 guard line-ups by end of the season. Luke’s D & Rbding could be difference maker on the season.
Luke and Julian (& even our potential walk-on/ 2-sport/ quarterback Drew) shot over 50% from 3 in HS. I don’t think we’ll lack fire-power- even from 11th man off bench.
We’re probably not going to finish 13 AdjO & 23 AdjD again-like last year. But a top-20 O & top-30 D puts us in 8 or 9 range seed in tourney. Top 20 range D & we’re getting top-25 votes before end of the year.
It may be a lot to expect of mostly underclass, but I expect floor to be top-6 finish in PAC & 11th or 12th seed in tourney minimum. Against Creighton (maybe), UCLA, Tennesse & Kansas- we may know more by December?
Agreed that Tristan will become scorer.
But Luke, Nique & Javon will be given every chance to show they can defend & rebound the 3 spot. Nique already showing he’s committed to D & Rbding. Javon is such a bull-dog; he’ll earn more minutes at 3-spot in 3 guard line-ups by end of the season. Luke’s D & Rbding could be difference maker on the season.
Luke and Julian (& even our potential walk-on/ 2-sport/ quarterback Drew) shot over 50% from 3 in HS. I don’t think we’ll lack fire-power- even from 11th man off bench.
We’re probably not going to finish 13 AdjO & 23 AdjD again-like last year. But a top-20 O & top-30 D puts us in 8 or 9 range seed in tourney. Top 20 range D & we’re getting top-25 votes before end of the year.
It may be a lot to expect of mostly underclass, but I expect floor to be top-6 finish in PAC & 11th or 12th seed in tourney minimum. Against Creighton (maybe), UCLA, Tennesse & Kansas- we may know more by December?
Luke
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I don't like it as much as what Jon Wilner's doing in San Jose:
www.mercurynews.com
But Matt doing some new college basketball reporting from Connecticut:
cbbreview.com
Pac-12 basketball outlook: Our projections for the 2022 award winners and all-conference teams (and we picked a lot of teams)
UCLA guard Johnny Juzang, Washington State coach Kyle Smith and Oregon transfer Quincy Guerrier lead the Hotline’s projections for Pac-12 award winners in the 2021-22 season.
www.mercurynews.com
But Matt doing some new college basketball reporting from Connecticut:
Colorado Basketball: Tad Boyle In New Territory With Outstanding Recruiting Class
Colorado basketball head coach Tad Boyle has put together a top 15 recruiting class in Boulder.
cbbreview.com
I'm sorry, but your posts read like Bigbang/Johnny Depth more and more.
Maybe, but I wouldn't fault anyone for having optimism toward CU basketball and trusting their recruiting.
Buffsbball
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Jabari getting some love!
dyemeduke
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At minimum?!?! I think it's great the bbal threads have gotten more popular as the program's had more success. The optimism is great, but I think too lofty expectations can set people up for disappointment to the point of being unreasonable in their critiques. Kin commanded the locker room and the floor; replacing him will be incredibly difficult (not to mention the other losses). At minimum, I expect a record around 500 (even if a little less) while throwing some punches during losses and showing potential for a solid 22-23. I hope for a better record, maybe approaching NIT, and some real promise from KJ and Lawson, with some development from Jabari, Tristan, Kee, and Nique.
I hope to eat crow, but in the unfortunate case that my minimum expectations become reality, mark this post. An idiot like me was able to see it coming - save your criticisms of Tad and the program. The program is the heathiest it's been as long as I've been a fan.
Whether we're an NIT type season or a Dance & Advance type season comes down to health (as always) and 2 questions:
1. Will we get plus play from the PG spot?
2. Will Jabari play like a lottery pick?
Since I only really follow CBB through the Buffs, I'm unacquainted with what would be reasonable expectations after signing a top ten recruiting class. I'm guessing, however, that most programs would expect to go dancing with these freshman. So, my only real hesitancy with predicting a 20-win season is that Tad hasn't put together a season like that with this inexperienced a roster in the past.
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It's a great class.
But you also have to remember that basketball class ranks are not like football.
It was a large class of really good prospects.
I don't know if that's better than a class that maybe had room for 2 guys and landed higher rated 4*s than the top of our class.
Because of that variability, I kind of think that you need to look at a 3-year rolling average rank to compare team recruiting in MBB.
We need to replace 46+ pts a game plus the 2nd best player the program has ever had. A healthy Allen would have been a huge plus. People thinking Clifford or O'Brien are going to suddenly become more than role players are delusional. Both are worth 5-6 PPG this year, I'm afraid. Parquet is going to have to do more on the offensive side which I think he can do. The front court combo of Battey and Walker needs to get us 30/12 every night for us to really push for 20+ wins. Even with that, I think the Buffs are going to have to be more nasty on D than ever before. I was originally thinking 21/22 wins. Now, I'm thinking more like 18/19. An NCAA bid would be glorious, but I'd take a long NIT run.
And arguably the best player in the class is out for the year, so...
Yes. Probably the same as he'll get here now. 10-14 min.
We're probably too young to take advantage of it, but the out of conference sked with Tennessee and Kansas at home would provide just the kind of lift a 19-20 win team needs for a bid. I agree with you on the D.
So you've been on a message board before I see.
dyemeduke
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I think Buffnik's response captures it, but to add on, I don't think most programs would expect to go dancing with these freshmen, mainly bc of the makeup of the class. Maybe Lovering shows himself to be way further along than anticipated, but that's not really likely. None of them are 5* prospects that are going to carry a team, which is completely fine of course. We all should enjoy watching this class develop.
I think the bigger issue is last year's class. Somebody other than Walker needs to go off this year. We're talking 11/5/2 type numbers. If that happens we could be just fine.
I keep hearing good things about Kee. Let's hope he's the guy
So losing to Maine would be an acceptable loss in your eyes?
Here's a fun game to wash away your football discontent!
Montana State W
New Mexico W
Maine W
Southern Illinois W
Northeastern W
Creighton L
Stanford W
@UCLA L
Tennessee L
Eastern Washington W (trap game)
Milwaukee W
CSU Bakersfield W
Kansas L
@Oregon L
@Oregon State L
Washington W
Washington State W
@Arizona L
@Arizona State L
USC W
UCLA L
@UWashington W
@Wash State L
Oregon W
Oregon State W (trap game)
Utah W
@Cal W (trap game)
@Stanford L
Arizona W
Arizona State W
@Utah L
19-12
Win one, lose one in the Pac12 Tourney and sit at 20-13 on Selection Sunday.
Montana State W
New Mexico W
Maine W
Southern Illinois W
Northeastern W
Creighton L
Stanford W
@UCLA L
Tennessee L
Eastern Washington W (trap game)
Milwaukee W
CSU Bakersfield W
Kansas L
@Oregon L
@Oregon State L
Washington W
Washington State W
@Arizona L
@Arizona State L
USC W
UCLA L
@UWashington W
@Wash State L
Oregon W
Oregon State W (trap game)
Utah W
@Cal W (trap game)
@Stanford L
Arizona W
Arizona State W
@Utah L
19-12
Win one, lose one in the Pac12 Tourney and sit at 20-13 on Selection Sunday.
'99
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It's college basketball. Nearly every team has 1 or more 'unacceptable' losses every season.
Highs and lows are fine.
The hyperbole that follows a loss like that by the drive by posters are stupid.