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Mark Kennedy new, but soon to be old CU President - Official CU president Thread
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It is something they deal with on a daily basis and once again shouldn't shape anything in the future. Good lord, you know how many people that run huge companies that are huge conservative ass holes that agree with things like that? It doesn't mean that person goes around talking **** to every gay person in the company. Personal beliefs and professional relationships don't have to intersect.
A commercial company is not a public university. They are completely different for a variety of reasons
I’ve seen no evidence to indicate he’s anti gay or a bigot. Don’t throw his votes in Congress out as evidence. There are several possible reasons for those votes that don’t include bias against anybody. His interactions with the ND legislature and UND donors, students and staff are more well documented and represent a far greater cause for concern.
The point is still the same. He isn't voting on certain bills, or trying to push bills through.
It is really simple. Is gay marriage legal in Colorado? Yes. Well he can't do **** about that. Is abortion legal in Colorado? Yes, he can't do **** about that either. Stem Cell research is legal correct? and is a huge part of the CU system. The free speech one is a really good one brought up earlier so I understand that one.
Being in government and the president of a university are two completely separate things and I don't really care about what his personal political views are now, let alone in 2002. What is his vision for CU and how does he plan on getting there, that is all that really matters.
I think it becomes a very valid question that he must answer. In absence of anything he has said to retract any of his public positions, it is more likely he holds those beliefs than that he does not.
Would seem weird to me to think otherwise.
And it is quite important to the CU mission that the university continues to have policies that lead and advocate for things like medical research, women's healthcare for our students & faculty, LGBT safety/acceptance, environmental consciousness, free speech, immigrant rights, and increasing diversity.
Can Kennedy embrace those things while moderating policies with a conservative, experienced voice? If so, then his personal beliefs are not a problem. But if he is inflexible and might try to drive a culture change...
Because people say dumb things in politics all the time. They are also required to have a stance on things even if they aren't very passionate about it. They can default to what their party or base wants. It is a complicated mess. Do I think his views could have changed on gay marriage, abortion or stem cell research? Yes or course, those have changed drastically over the last 20 years or so. Do I think he will all of the sudden be some hippie about the environment, or course not but do you really think the regents would have been okay with someone coming in and taking over the flagship university system in what is basically a blue state that had a plan to say **** the environment, and stem cell research shouldn't be done at this university. If you think that happened then I think you are crazy.
I find it completely humorous that Kroll is supporting Kennedy. Would never have thought that possible.
So you don't think he should be questioned about these topics? We should just assume that he didn't strongly believe any of the stuff he said and did as a politician? Assume that he would not act on any of those stated beliefs? It's irrelevant to hiring the CU President?
The Ogre
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You just lose credibility with offhanded crap like this.
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Symtematic of Regents paying $90K for a search firm to deliver results that do not put much thought into political purity tests?
@Uncle Ken believes in sometimes going offhanded with his johnson. Mixing it up is like being with someone new.
This post feels slanderous. He’s not a lefty, he identifies as a coastal elite.
I believe that is a UBL@Uncle Ken believes in sometimes going offhanded with his johnson. Mixing it up is like being with someone new.
Edit: sometimes I identify as a lefty
Well, from everything we have read to this point, there are some answers that need to be provided. He is supposed to represent a $4 billion dollar enterprise with thousands of employees and students. It is a high level research institution with pretty lofty fund raising needs for academics and athletics.
I will say his past should have been examined by the search committee and I would love to hear or read how and why he was picked. I cannot say that his background nor his past philosophy based on what we are seeing, are very closely aligned with the constituents of the state in which this is the flagship university.
Bottom line, I think the regents have not served the people well nor done their job in this search. When you have one regent already backtracking from their support vote because these easily found details of his background are not know to her, I think there is a lot to be desired in the process. This does not even speak to the fact that we are going after a guy who was leading a much smaller and less prestigous institution.
Guess what I am getting at there is that I think we underachieved and have horrible and lazy regents. I would wager that he has a 50/50 chance of actually becoming the President of the University of Colorado. We will see and I hope that the pressure continues from all sides on this one.
I will say his past should have been examined by the search committee and I would love to hear or read how and why he was picked. I cannot say that his background nor his past philosophy based on what we are seeing, are very closely aligned with the constituents of the state in which this is the flagship university.
Bottom line, I think the regents have not served the people well nor done their job in this search. When you have one regent already backtracking from their support vote because these easily found details of his background are not know to her, I think there is a lot to be desired in the process. This does not even speak to the fact that we are going after a guy who was leading a much smaller and less prestigous institution.
Guess what I am getting at there is that I think we underachieved and have horrible and lazy regents. I would wager that he has a 50/50 chance of actually becoming the President of the University of Colorado. We will see and I hope that the pressure continues from all sides on this one.
You asked a simple question. I answered it succinctly. I’m not sure where this lecture is coming from.
Are we hiring a football coach?
Abortion is obviously a hot button issue and deeply personal to a lot of people.
But is marriage equality really a "leftist" position in 2019?
FlatironsBuff
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Think Positive and life will be Positive.
Bad take
Thorough my ass, JFC.
Vetting process = Benson pretty much picking his successor through the cover of a search firm and the Regents knowing where their bread is buttered
Good Lord I hope not. But as I think about it, I can see that scenario as entirely possible.
Do Kennedy and Benson have a relationship or any kind of ties, outside of being Republican, that would give precedent for this theory? If they aren’t friends or haven’t really worked together in the past, I have a hard time believing Benson did the research himself found this guy and decided he was his successor.
