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Mel Tucker killed my love of college athletics
- Thread starter dio
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I'm fairly certain the past 15 years weeded the fake ones out
CU is as fragile today as ever. So is P12. This is a serious rebuke.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
We've got another 3m to play with at least. Id prefer not to get used by another P5 coordinator-but if we're going this route give me Tony Elliott or Brent Venables.
Hahaha! Because it's been a bunch of bandwagoners until now?
No ****
RalphieSpeaks
Club Member
I don’t disagree the situation is bad. As bad as at the end of the Embree era? Winning like one game, bad attendance, no facilities, no AD leadership? This is not as bad.
First year and second year are so different in any position. New hire has to sell every player on his vision all over again, this year's RS-Sophs, Juniors, and Seniors will be asked to buy into the third different vision.
There's a loss of momentum.
It might only be a stutter step back, but it's not going to be a clean lateral step with no loss of momentum.
Would you prefer to get used by G5 HC? Unless you're talking about a guy like EB or an older guys like Shanahan, CU is going to be used by anyone.
Yep - i'm not a real CU fan!
My hope is that anger at these events is a stronger motivator for on-field success than any prior positive inspiration ever was: I think we've seen enough of "lovin' 'em up."
What I want to know is why does MT think anyone will ever believe anything he says in a recruit's living room again: "I love you, man," followed one week later by.... "You don't have the bills, man"?
What I want to know is why does MT think anyone will ever believe anything he says in a recruit's living room again: "I love you, man," followed one week later by.... "You don't have the bills, man"?
Blackdynamite
Well-Known Member
I think the thing that most upsets me is that the bad ass animated gif will never be used again.
Sounds like CU level strategy for success
GoldenSkier
Well-Known Member
It isn't CU... it is college athletics. It isn't fun to invest in at this point in time. The money has gotten out of control and poisoned it for me. I love the Buffs, but I don't enjoy watching the University struggle just to be mediocre year after year - not when the deck is stacked against them.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I said this in a post recently-its one thing to bolt after four or five years and multiple bowl bids. It's another to do it after a 5 win season that didnt look much different on the field than MacIntyres last two. The former is a fact of life in the business. The latter is snake-like.
I agree but that is exclusive to to Tucker, not all P5 coordinators.
GoldenSkier
Well-Known Member
JWP303
Well-Known Member
I hear you buddy.
I've been here for several years now - I just can't bring myself to stay emotionally invested when the only return on my investment is heartache. I still root for the Buffs, but I just don't make them a priority as much as I used to. I have joked with friends that it's like investing in a ponzi scheme -- you never get to realize the upside, but you get all the downside.
Chip'sBlueBollocks
Well-Known Member
Clemson thought the same thing about being a “decent Wisconsin” type of program. But, then Dabo happened. Never. Ever. Be happy with mediocrity. I want National Titles and respect for the Colorado programs.
Any asshole can win at Ohio State or Florida. A real test of coaching would be to win big at CU.
This has been college sports for a while now. It just so happened to be CU on the bad end of the stick this time.
CU needs to position themselves into a conference (BIG/SEC) that gives themselves a chance, or find a mega donor like Phil Knight. The Pac 12 is trash and will continue to be. Being 100 million dollars behind in the next 4-5 years will be too late.
CU needs to position themselves into a conference (BIG/SEC) that gives themselves a chance, or find a mega donor like Phil Knight. The Pac 12 is trash and will continue to be. Being 100 million dollars behind in the next 4-5 years will be too late.
WarBuff
Club Member
I would gladly take this level of mediocrity over what we have seen.
So you are blaming CU for this?
Mine has been taking a hit recently too. Just can't stand the hypocritical nature of most of the coaches involved anymore and how they hold these public institutions ransom for all of this money and then are complicit on limiting what student athletes can make. When you hear over and over how much nicer college facilities are than professional ones it just makes you want to give up sometimes.
Sort of why I brought up the potential legislation a couple months back to limit spending and salaries.
Sort of why I brought up the potential legislation a couple months back to limit spending and salaries.
The positive is that we signed a good class. And thats helps for landing the next coach in so much that he's not starting completely from scratch. Or worse having to scrap together that transitional class of unrated players just to get some bodies in because the last guy bailed before LOI day.
I also agree that the story on Tucker is still out. He might be great, but like most coaches, he's probably just mediocre.
The sad part, as Dio apptly points out, is its a business and its becoming more and more of one every year and less and less an amateur sport. The days of Bill McCartney type coach who invests years in players and a program seem to be fading fast.
snowman33
Well-Known Member
The blame for this doesn't go to the Pac 12 or CU. 100% of the blame goes to the lying piece of **** that used to be our football coach. He is a liar, fraud, and phony. This season will be even more enjoyable for me than it usually is. Now I get to not only support my beloved Buffs but spend the rest of my time supporting every team that plays MSU and taking great pleasure in watching them lose. What a train wreck of a university. They deserve each other. And to those of you who say we shouldn't waste our time being angry at the piece of **** that used to be our coach, to each their own. I hate the guy. I hope his career crashes and burns. What he did to our players, the fans, and the university that showed great faith in him, I won't ever forgive him for it. Your word should mean something. Not even meeting with his players face-to-face, what a pussy. From this point forward, he is my least favorite person in sports. I will root against him no matter where he goes for the rest of his career. I'm not being petty, I'm just being honest. NOTHING can make me stop supporting my Buffs. Hopefully our next coach will be a good and honest man and will stick around long enough to get the job done.
RG is a competitive dude. He feels like (legitimately so) he was ****ed over by someone that he trusted and wanted. Competitors fight back.
I would not be surprised in the least if this caused RG to overreact (in a good way) and raise more money to bring a splash HC hire to the table. Despite our current feelings, we are an attractive location for coaches again. Good facilities, good young roster, increasing support, a down conference as a whole.
@dio I felt very similar to you as stated in your well written OP. But I encourage you to wait and see how CU reacts to getting ****ed before checking out. Just my 2 cents
I would not be surprised in the least if this caused RG to overreact (in a good way) and raise more money to bring a splash HC hire to the table. Despite our current feelings, we are an attractive location for coaches again. Good facilities, good young roster, increasing support, a down conference as a whole.
@dio I felt very similar to you as stated in your well written OP. But I encourage you to wait and see how CU reacts to getting ****ed before checking out. Just my 2 cents
Your going to have to stop holding back if we are going to get anywhere.