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Nate Landman appreciation thread
- Thread starter dyemeduke
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Dude
I think it is a smart decision. I am sure he had a few NFL scouts tell him that prior to the injury he was a 3rd to 4th round grade, but the injury would make many teams pass and no one is going to sign an UDFA that is unable to pass a physical. By staying 1 more year, he can fully rehab, work on a masters, and add more film. Perhaps raise his grade to solid 3rd.
The silver lining is that his game isn't dependent on being super quick and explosive. Even if he's not 100% he should still be a major impact player who will work his draft stock back into position.
Landman isn't fast, but I would say the work he does in the front seven very much relies on being quick and explosive. I have concerns as to what he will look like if he rushes back.
241Volcanos
Well-Known Member
Exactly. Not basketball or even RB/WR. He will just need to build up strength in leg after recovery. I don’t think his timetable is that rushed.
Well, every position on the field needs to be quick and explosive in its own right. It's all relative, though. This is a more devastating injury to a WR or RB and the timeframe for those positions being back to normal effectiveness on the field is longer than an ILB whose game is playing in the box.
Most studies suggest 6-8 months for return to sport from this injury. He has 8 months until opening kickoff.
Post the links to the studies that say high level football players recover from achilles tears in 6-8 months, please.
Return to sport considerations after Achilles tendon rupture
The blog this week focuses on a recent systematic review that examined return to sport after Achilles tendon rupture. Not surprisingly, there are a significant proportion that do not return to sport at the same level.
www.tendinopathyrehab.com
My point is that all defenders find success by being the fastest to get from Point A to Point B. Some use pure speed to cover a wide range, but Landman has shown time and again that he is explosive as hell inside of 10-15 yards. He is consistently the first or second person to arrive (violently) at a ball carrier. That isn't all due to effort and anticipation. An achilles injury hinders the explosiveness of your first step...it will take time for him to get that back, and it could make a big difference in his performance.
I agree, and I'm not expecting him to be 100% of what he was. He may never be 100% of what he was, but his position provides him a better chance of coming back and playing at a relatively high level sooner than say Brendan Rice or Jarek Broussard had they sustained the same injury.
hawg1
Well-Known Member
These say 8 at absolute best. More likely 9-10. Some cases can be 11-12.Return to sport considerations after Achilles tendon rupture
The blog this week focuses on a recent systematic review that examined return to sport after Achilles tendon rupture. Not surprisingly, there are a significant proportion that do not return to sport at the same level.
Huh? They all seem pretty consistent that 6-9 months is pretty standard return to sport.
From the first...
The Second...
The Third...
The Fourth... (suggests 5.5 months at the earliest to 9 months at average)
First one is just “sport” as in recreational folks getting back to an active lifestyle. Did not study athletes in contact sports.Return to sport considerations after Achilles tendon rupture
The blog this week focuses on a recent systematic review that examined return to sport after Achilles tendon rupture. Not surprisingly, there are a significant proportion that do not return to sport at the same level.
Second one is “sport” same as first. Only for recreational athletes. It does not factor athletes in contact sports.
Third. Same as above.
Fourth is the best study. 7 to NFL is the fastest. Offers warning about pace of return being a factor. Yes, he CAN potentially return quickly. That’s the earliest - it’s not an average.
The first three were also studies on 40+ year old men/women. A 21 year old should hopefully recover at a quicker rate for recreational activities but on a similar rate or possible extended timeline for more rigorous contact sports.
I've looked around some more and there are differing timelines relating to NFL players. One said 6-11 months. Another said average of 11 months.
Regardless, it's all going to come down to how he responds to surgery and rehab. It's likely that he's not going to be 100% of what he was by September, but I think there is a more than 50/50 chance he is cleared to play by opening kickoff. That might mean he needs an extra month to get back into game shape, but I don't think he comes back if the doctors gave him a RTS timeline of December 2021.
I agree that December is unlikely, but I doubt you see him back any earlier than October. If he comes back sooner, injury recurrence is super high.
To rehab on the NFL's dime he needed an NFL team to draft him. Doubt he would have been brought in as an UDFA to rehab for an entire year.
Ergo the first sentence of my post.
You better chill unless you want to end up like Drew Wilson.
His dominance was even apparent to random Utah fan.
Is that a fat joke?
