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[o_robbie]

Wake up man. If I knew who you were and where you live, I'd contact the crazy people experts to come pick you up.

How often does a new head coach win on the road in their coaching debuts? Even if that coach has been on a coaching staff for the same team at least a few years ago? If you really knew NDSU, you would know that they are not on the same level as their championship winning teams and that is why their HC fled for a LB coach job at USC that might not last a year depending on how Lincoln Riley does. You don't make that move unless you know you are getting fired or your recruiting efforts are not paying off. In that case, it was both for the former NDSU head coach.

If we beat NDSU, that would be great because:

1. That Nub frosh QB won't be as efficient & experienced as that NDSU QB. I'm not sure if the CSU QB will be on par or equal to the NDSU QB.
2. NDSU will be a preview for when KSU comes to town and we face them coming off a bye. What we cannot predict is if the DL guys will stay healthy later in the season when we face TT, Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State.

I am not expecting CU to run the ball too much this season and even if we can push NDSU's DL around, that is not going to say much about how CU will fare against Big 12 DLs because FCS DLs are undersized compared to P4 DLs given we will be facing that in Lincoln the following week.

And when was the last time NDSU actually faced a talented QB and talented WRs like they will be facing at CU?

Again, get this through your thick skull: Coach Prime, coming up from a FCS HBCU team that is more akin to D2, won his CU coaching debut on the road against a P4 team that played in the national championship game the previous January. This time, it is against a slowly declining FCS team at home. Big difference there.

See Bold for idiocracy / Completely agree NDSU is a declining FCS team and I'm glad we are getting them when they are down, and we have our best roster in forever.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

See Bold for idiocracy / Completely agree NDSU is a declining FCS team and I'm glad we are getting them when they are down, and we have our best roster in forever.

Ok fine they produce an O linemen here and there. What's your prediction for the game when CU plays this NFL factory?

 

[BuffsNYC]

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

 

[Corey Trevorson]

In the past 10 to 15 years CSU is garbage compared to NDSU and anyone who says any different has been living under a Rock. CSU getting excited to play CU is not going to make them physically bigger or better than NDSU nor do I think CSU will be more hyped than NDSU for the game. This is literally NDSU's hype game. They will be all systems go to win a FBS game. They hang their hat on consistently beating the teams that pay them to come lose.

You seem unable to use any variable change in your analysis.

Trying to claim the emotion is the same, especially last year, is laughable ignorance.

 

[skibum]

You seem unable to use any variable change in your analysis.

Trying to claim the emotion is the same, especially last year, is laughable ignorance.

CU will field the exact same team with the exact same emotional energy, and exact same team chemistry as they did last year against CSU. It's simply inconceivable that anything could change.

 

[Corey Trevorson]

CU will field the exact same team with the exact same emotional energy, and exact same team chemistry as they did last year against CSU. It's simply inconceivable that anything could change.

CFB being static is the best thing about the sport!

 

[Da Lama]

In the past 10 to 15 years CSU is garbage compared to NDSU and anyone who says any different has been living under a Rock. CSU getting excited to play CU is not going to make them physically bigger or better than NDSU nor do I think CSU will be more hyped than NDSU for the game. This is literally NDSU's hype game. They will be all systems go to win a FBS game. They hang their hat on consistently beating the teams that pay them to come lose.

Because you're dead wrong. They care waaaaay more about winning FCS Nattys. A loss in Week 1 against an FBS opponent doesn't change a damn thing in their season goals - 1) Win a Natty, 2) Win the conference, 3) Beat SDSU, 4) Beat UND, 5) Beat USD, 6) Beat Week 1 FBS opponent. This is nowhere near their Super Bowl - It's a fvcking pay day.

 

[leftybuff]

I, for one, am glad we aren't opening against Cortland. Can you imagine having to face off against the DIII Champ from last year?

 

[o_robbie]

I, for one, am glad we aren't opening against Cortland. Can you imagine having to face off against the DIII Champ from last year?

For the sake of understanding how good NDSU is...this is James Madison who have flirted as a Top 25 program in the FBS... Notice below who consistently has beaten them in the Playoffs over the past 5 years of FCS play. Just putting this into perspective. NDSU has the ability, the execution level, and the players to operate similar to a non P4 Top 25 program.

 

[o_robbie]

Because you're dead wrong. They care waaaaay more about winning FCS Nattys. A loss in Week 1 against an FBS opponent doesn't change a damn thing in their season goals - 1) Win a Natty, 2) Win the conference, 3) Beat SDSU, 4) Beat UND, 5) Beat USD, 6) Beat Week 1 FBS opponent. This is nowhere near their Super Bowl - It's a fvcking pay day.

After more thought I will concede that CSU cares more about beating CU than NDSU does...

 

[Trogdor]

All you ****ing lunatics here do is post in megathreads.

 

[o_robbie]

Ok fine they produce an O linemen here and there. What's your prediction for the game when CU plays this NFL factory?

38-20 CU... I'm still waiting for takers to give me 27.5 points and I'll take NDSU.. where are the Coneheads at??? Crickets....

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

What isn’t being explicitly stated is how much the portal has decimated programs like NDSU over the past two years. Alternatively it has been helping programs like CU. Two programs with mirrored trajectories

 

[Creebuzz]

What isn’t being explicitly stated is how much the portal has decimated programs like NDSU over the past two years. Alternatively it has been helping programs like CU. Two programs with mirrored trajectories

I’ve been seeing a lot of the preseason All Big 12 predictions of late, and many have WR Eli Green on the first team. He plays for Iowa State, as a 2024 transfer from NDSU.

 

[FLounder]

NDSU puts an OL to the NFL pretty frequently. That's why it's their wheelhouse and they are homegrown and lightly recruited.
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NIL has destroyed their lines. If there is a sophomore or junior that has the frame to play FBS and they perform well at NDSU they transfer to Iowa or Kansas state or Wyoming.

Buffs by 50.

Bank it.

 

[FLounder]

We might be up 35-0 before they even cross midfield.

 

[leftybuff]

For the sake of understanding how good NDSU is...this is James Madison who have flirted as a Top 25 program in the FBS... Notice below who consistently has beaten them in the Playoffs over the past 5 years of FCS play. Just putting this into perspective. NDSU has the ability, the execution level, and the players to operate similar to a non P4 Top 25 program.

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I think you may have mistaken me for someone who is taking this debate seriously.

 

[Corey Trevorson]

For the sake of understanding how good NDSU is...this is James Madison who have flirted as a Top 25 program in the FBS... Notice below who consistently has beaten them in the Playoffs over the past 5 years of FCS play. Just putting this into perspective. NDSU has the ability, the execution level, and the players to operate similar to a non P4 Top 25 program.

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Once again the only examples you have are in the past & before the transfer portal went wild.

Such a good team that they dropped 4 games to other FCS teams...who are all less talented than CU.

 

[14er]

 

[patebuff]

I think you may have mistaken me for someone who is taking this debate seriously.

I thought robbie was a sdsu fan, claiming to be a ndsu fan, claiming to be a CU fan.

 

[o_robbie]

NIL has destroyed their lines. If there is a sophomore or junior that has the frame to play FBS and they perform well at NDSU they transfer to Iowa or Kansas state or Wyoming.

Buffs by 50.

Bank it.

Looked through 247 and On3 and found exactly 1 DT who transferred and zero OL for 2024,2023,2022. Can't see any that have transferred to Iowa, Wyoming. Did have a DB transfer to KSU. Seems like you are just someone who throws a bunch of make believe up on a message board.

 

[FLounder]

Looked through 247 and On3 and found exactly 1 DT who transferred and zero OL for 2024,2023,2022. Can't see any that have transferred to Iowa, Wyoming. Did have a DB transfer to KSU. Seems like you are just someone who throws a bunch of make believe up on a message board.

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Unbelievably astute observation champ

 

[o_robbie]

Once again the only examples you have are in the past & before the transfer portal went wild.

Such a good team that they dropped 4 games to other FCS teams...who are all less talented than CU.

Nobody has played a game this year. All we can look at is the past as an example of how the future will likely play out. I completely agree CU is more talented and should win by double digits. Follow the thread and you can see my argument is that NDSU will do things to attempt to keep it close and slow the pace of the game down so they can stay within the things they do best. Play solid defense and run the ball and control the clock. And they have athletes at positions to do so. And They absolutely have guys on their roster who would play or start at CU....Try to keep up...

 

[FightCu1414]

Nobody has played a game this year. All we can look at is the past as an example of how the future will likely play out. I completely agree CU is more talented and should win by double digits. Follow the thread and you can see my argument is that NDSU will do things to attempt to keep it close and slow the pace of the game down so they can stay within the things they do best. Play solid defense and run the ball and control the clock. And they have athletes at positions to do so. And They absolutely have guys on their roster who would play or start at CU....Try to keep up...

Can you name the players that would start at CU?

 

[FLounder]

I don’t think they have one player who would crack our 2 deep.

Also here are some articles outlining their downward trajectory

North Dakota State Loses Several Key Pieces to Transfer Portal

The Bison are seeing a good chunk of their talent leave and not in the usual way.

www.underdogdynasty.com

NDSU WR Eli Green Enters Transfer Portal - KVRR Local News

FARGO, N.D. (KVRR)–Standout North Dakota State Wide Receiver Eli Green is reportedly entering the transfer portal, according to Pete Nakos of On3sports. The Farmington, Minnesota native spent the last three seasons with the Bison. Green redshirted his first year before playing in 12 games his...

www.kvrr.com

List of Bison football players transferring from program continues to grow

For the eighth time since October, the Bison saw a high-profile player decide to enter the transfer portal.

www.valleynewslive.com

Lastly

No. 15 UND Dismantles No. 6/7 NDSU, 49-24 - University of North Dakota Athletics

GRAND FORKS, N.D. - No. 15 North Dakota (4-2, 2-1 MVFC) scored on the opening kickoff and did not look back, defeating No. 6/7 North Dakota State (4-2, 1-2 MVFC),

fightinghawks.com

If the fighting hawks from North Dakota can curb stomp the NDSU Bison by 25, what will the Colorado Golden Buffaloes do?

Win by ****ing 50.

 

[J.R. Ewing]

 

[Buffnik]

 

[Alfred91]

Is there any reason for the fans to take them seriously? I hope the team does, but I hope the fans do not.

I always kinda laugh when people tell fans on message boards "we can't overlook so-and-so" or "let's wait until we beat this team, then we can talk about that team". I mean, I appreciate the superstition side of it, I'm a weirdo when it comes to that ****, too, but aside from that, who the **** cares what we do? The team doesn't, I guarantee that.

 

[Alfred91]

CU will field the exact same team with the exact same emotional energy, and exact same team chemistry as they did last year against CSU. It's simply inconceivable that anything could change.

Obligatory.