I wouldn't even say that's the primary problem, the problem is they leave without any sort of compensation.
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NIL act passed - NCAA allows athletes to monetise their name, image, likeness
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I wouldn't even say that's the primary problem, the problem is they leave without any sort of compensation.
A college scholarship is still valuable compensation.
I think he means there’s no compensation to the school for losing the player.
Ok, yeah, that makes sense
It has already been this way, now it will just be done openly, and the money will be much bigger.
bar9716
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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how FAST the amounts of money to players will grow. The NFL fought for the salary cap to prevent the salaries from growing outrageously fast, but college football doesn't have consensus amoung teams or conferences. This arms race could get really crazy, really fast.
Think about the Nike contract.
The way it is currently written there's a total $/yr. Some of that $ goes to the school, some of it goes directly to the coaches. A lot of the reason it's done this way is so that the school doesn't pay the entire cost of the coaches' salaries directly, which avoids a lot of public employee limits on things (especially retirement contributions). But, almost every contract in the AD is written this way.
There's no reason the school can't say "hey Nike, take X out of the coaches' and school buckets and put it into a players NIL bucket."
The money can’t come from the school though, just boosters etc.
It can come via corporate sponsorship, though. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant - carve out some of the pie from the Nike sponsorship to pay student athletes, just like they'll split on any EA college sports games.
This was the quote from Skibum that I was questioning:
“skibum said:
The only way CU competes is if they divert money from the coaches salaries to the players”
Pretty sure they can’t do this.
Honestly, I think it would take two things to win big again. A complete overhaul of leadership. A T Boone Pickens sized booster steps up.
Overhaul of leadership should be agenda 1 and 2.
Again, they *ALREADY* divert money from the Nike (and other contracts) to the coaches. They can just have Nike (and others) divert some of that money to the players instead.
This isn't really all that complicated.
Good article on collectives and how recruiters are currently using it
www.on3.com
How are recruiters working with NIL collectives in states where it’s allowed?
With rapidly changing state laws, walls between recruiters, student-athletes and NIL collectives continue to crumble all across the country.
I give this a dislike, because it’s ****ing ridiculous. What would Tate Mattel’s NIL deal with Ohio State or Miami for that matter have looked like coming out of high school?
Insane
Kid turned down an $11m deal with Florida apparently. To put this in perspective, this would rank 5th on the Broncos for base salary in 2022. Even if you annualize that out across his 4 years, the $2.3m/year "salary" puts him 13th on the Broncos. For a kid who is more likely to be average at best than carry the Canes to prominence.
I have trouble believing this is sustainable.
At what point are boosters who are funding these collectives going to get tired of shelling out a few million for a QB that ends up being a JAG and the program coming back to said booster for the next year's QB who wants a little bit more $$?
Not only that, but as Klatt mentioned on the pod with Andy Staples, there are a bunch of kids who are signing bad deals with some of these booster entities that are basically owning their rights now and in the future. The kids and families are giving away future earnings for a short term pay day. It's a big reason why, for the good of the athlete and sport, the CFB powers need to come to some kind of agreement on central governance where this stuff can be regulated.
Miami has had a fair number of highly rated "savior" QBs since they were last relevant. Their collective success has been abysmal.
Some absolutely horrible stories will come out of this with kids getting taken advantage of and in 10 years they are on the streets or even worse.
Yeah. By proxy. It’s much simpler now. The donors can now go directly to the players with the cash
I used to anticipate every Buff football and basketball games as well as the Rockies’, Nuggets’, Avs’, Broncos’ games.
This year, especially due to the television wars, I watched very few Avs’ and Nuggets’ games until the playoffs. I haven’t watched a single Rockies game this summer.
Because of a combination of their incompetence and the NIL/Transfer conundrum, I’m just about done with college football as well. If the Buffs were competitive or even showed the prospect of becoming competitive, I’d feel differently. But without even an inkling of hope that we will ever rise to an elite level, I just find it difficult to get engaged.
NIL and the transfer issue have ruined CU football for me.
This year, especially due to the television wars, I watched very few Avs’ and Nuggets’ games until the playoffs. I haven’t watched a single Rockies game this summer.
Because of a combination of their incompetence and the NIL/Transfer conundrum, I’m just about done with college football as well. If the Buffs were competitive or even showed the prospect of becoming competitive, I’d feel differently. But without even an inkling of hope that we will ever rise to an elite level, I just find it difficult to get engaged.
NIL and the transfer issue have ruined CU football for me.
Same here. I've done a college football pool with 3 friends for years. We drafted teams and got points for how well they did. It was a ton of fun. No one can muster the enthusiasm to do it this year. Also, it's the first year I haven't purchased a Phil Steele in over a decade. I'm watching people count down for the start of the college season, and I've got nothing. It feels like part of my life has shriveled up.
BuffLuke80
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Just a question for you. Did you think it would be anything different? I sure as hell didn't.
Medford M.
Well-Known Member
I'm also curious about this. I was in favor of giving college athletes a piece of the pie, but I have to ask, those of of you who were very outspoken about getting players compensated, is this what you wanted?
I think fans' reaction to the NIL situation parallels that of the CFP really close -- fans wanted players compensated and fans wanted a playoff tournament.
Most fans didn't anticipate the consequences of either. I'll admit that even as the most outspoken opponent of the playoffs going back to when I first joined the board (2013), even I didn't think it would lead to such a separation between the haves and have nots as drastic or as quickly as it turned out.
the NIL issue has another component though in that nobody was advocating for a totally unregulated player compensation system like we have now.
BuffLuke80
Well-Known Member
I agree with part of this. The not anticipating this would happen, umm no. Am I going to get into everything I think about it, no, not in the mood. Only one thing, some of these guys are getting more than some starters in the NFL. Pandora's box comes to mind.