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Official CFP Selection Freakout Thread

Duff Man said:
Do you think Georgia is the best team based on 2023 alone? I think Michigan (for 2023 alone) has the better resume, and that was true even before yesterday's results.
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I don't know. I think Georgia probably beats Michigan 7 out of 10 times. But I could be wrong.

But I definitely want to see Michigan tested. I didn't want to see them get a freebie against FSU. Why do you think the team clenched their sphincters in synchrony when it was announced that Alabama, and not FSU, would be their opponent?
 
Hank said:
I don't know. I think Georgia probably beats Michigan 7 out of 10 times. But I could be wrong.

But I definitely want to see Michigan tested. I didn't want to see them get a freebie against FSU. Why do you think the team clenched their sphincters in synchrony when it was announced that Alabama, and not FSU, would be their opponent?
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When was Georgia "tested" prior to yesterday? Neither team played even a mediocre OOC schedule and Michigan had the harder conference schedule.
 
hawg1 said:
OK. The Committee uses other criteria, including SOS.
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As evidenced by the fact they have a team who didn't play a game against a ranked opponent until November 11 at number 1 in their final rankings, right?

One more note on Michigan's schedule-IIRC, the only team they played that finished with a winning record between Labor Day and that game against Penn State was UNLV.

If the committee really used SOS like you're trying to argue they do, Georgia wouldn't have been number one up until yesterday, and Michigan would not be number one right.

Washington has the best resume in the sport right now, and its not close.
 
ahoelsken said:
As evidenced by the fact they have a team who didn't play a game against a ranked opponent until November 11 at number 1 in their final rankings, right?
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Can you just make the argument for FSU over Bama using the Committee criteria?

These other twists and turns are fun debates, but I suggest we all get back to how the Committee made their decision.

Thanks.
 
hawg1 said:
Can you just make the argument for FSU over Bama using the Committee criteria?

These other twists and turns are fun debates, but I suggest we all get back to how the Committee made their decision.

Thanks.
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  • Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
I've made this argument several times. Alabama (with Milroe) needs a miracle to get a win over a 6-6 Auburn team that had gotten housed by New Mexico State the week before. Florida State is 2-0 without Jordan Travis.

In my view, we should be rewarding a team like Florida State for finding a way to get things down without their QB, not punishing them because he got hurt.
 
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Duff Man said:
When was Georgia "tested" prior to yesterday?
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Huh? I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that I wanted to see the champion tested with two wins against the top 4. Had Georgia made the playoff, I would want to see them do that too.

But to reply to your post, not a bad run:

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I think it was a down year for the SEC, but I think they were better than the Big Ten.
 
ahoelsken said:
What even is the committee criteria? It’s selective depending on the case.
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Wait. You don’t know the protocol criteria? They are in the charter. They were shown on the ESPN show today. We may now be getting to the heart of this situation.
 
dio said:
Watching Duff beat Hank like a drum is a treat
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hawg1 said:
Wait. You don’t know the protocol criteria? They are in the charter. They were shown on the ESPN show today. We may now be getting to the heart of this situation.
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The point I was trying to make is they use the criteria selectively.

Here's an example-If they use SOS as much as you think they do, explain why Michigan (who played one team with a winning record and zero ranked opponents until 11/11) is ahead of Washington (5 top 25 wins).
 
ahoelsken said:
The point I was trying to make is they use the criteria selectively.

If they use SOS as much as you think they do, explain why Michigan (who played one team with a winning record and zero ranked opponents until 11/11) is ahead of Washington (5 top 25 wins).
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Not comparable would be my guess. You would have to ask the Committee.

But this is about FsU and Bama. Apply the criteria. Which one should have been chosen? Apply all five.
 
ahoelsken said:
The point I was trying to make is they use the criteria selectively.

Here's an example-If they use SOS as much as you think they do, explain why Michigan (who played one team with a winning record and zero ranked opponents until 11/11) is ahead of Washington (5 top 25 wins).
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He says rankings, records, strength of conf doesn’t matter. Then he says something something protocol.
 
hawg1 said:
There is not one. It gets populated and weighted by opponents win percentage and opponent’s opponents win percentages.
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In that case, a great benefit of an 8-game conference schedule for the SEC.

SP+ is a bit different too.
 
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hawg1 said:
Not comparable would be my guess. You would have to ask the Committee.

But this is about FsU and Bama. Apply the criteria. Which one should have been chosen? Apply all five.
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Conference Championships-Even
SOS-Even/slight edge to Alabama in my view. Alabama does have a better win, but they also have a loss. That loss was also at home.
Head to Head-doesn't apply.
Comparative outcomes against common opponents-FSU. They beat LSU on a neutral field, while Alabama beat them at home. That's the way a computer would see that, no?
Unavailability of key players-This is FSU and I've already explained why. If you go 2-0 without your starting QB, you should be rewarded for that. Not punished in my view.
 
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ahoelsken said:
Conference Championships-Even
SOS-Even/slight edge to Alabama in my view. Alabama does have a better win, but they also have a loss. That loss was also at home.
Head to Head-doesn't apply.
Comparative outcomes against common opponents-FSU. They beat LSU on a neutral field, while Alabama beat them at home. That's the way a computer would see that, no?
Unavailability of key players-This is FSU and I've already explained why. If you go 2-0 without your starting QB, you should be rewarded for that. Not punished in my view.
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The Committee does not see SOS and key player availability like you. The key player availability is about impact on postseason. I think you are interpreting it incorrectly. They use SOS date not eyeballs like you.

Thanks for doing the exercise.
 
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