Official CFP Selection Freakout Thread

[Duff Man]

Washington should have jumped both of them. They have as many top 25 wins as Michigan and Georgia combined do IIRC.

But then maybe Georgia is #3 instead of #1. Suddenly, that Bama win is not quite as impressive.

 

[Flat_Iron_Rising]

But then maybe Georgia is #3 instead of #1. Suddenly, that Bama win is not quite as impressive.

And FSU's are even more impressive with their QB situation.

 

[Duff Man]

I thought the 1994 Buffs were severely overrated. People didn't account for the Hail Mary. Take that away, they were pretty mediocre.

This post works if Auburn was a top ten team.

 

[Hank]

Vegas also favored Oregon over Washington by nine so I don't see your point.

The committee is tasked with selecting the four best teams, as perceived by the public. Vegas is tasked with quantifying public perception in a line. There are always upsets. And perceptions are often wrong. I personally thought Oregon would cover. Really impressive game by Washington.

 

[hawg1]

All it says is that the system is a joke.

Do you dispute Bama having a better SoS than FSU?

 

[Medford M.]

I thought the 1994 Buffs were severely overrated. People didn't account for the Hail Mary. Take that away, they were pretty mediocre.

What was Michigan ranked that year? How good was Auburn this year?

You knew before you posted it that your argument was disingenuous at best.

 

[Flat_Iron_Rising]

The committee is tasked with selecting the four best teams, as perceived by the public. Vegas is tasked with quantifying public perception in a line. There are always upsets. And perceptions are often wrong. I personally thought Oregon would cover. Really impressive game by Washington.

No sh it and yeah Washington was impressive.

 

[ahoelsken]

SOS is important when teams are comparable. Bama has a better SOS than FSU. That includes the teams you mentioned.

Because they're an SEC team and Florida State isn't.

That's what this comes down to. You and I both know that.

 

[Duff Man]

The committee is ranking by public perception? Huh?

 

[hawg1]

But then maybe Georgia is #3 instead of #1. Suddenly, that Bama win is not quite as impressive.

The UGA win matters because it was for a conference championship making them equal with FSU on this criteria. .

 

[Hank]

This post works if Auburn was a top ten team.

Fine. Illinois finished #25 in 1990. And five downs.

 

[Duff Man]

The UGA win matters because it was for a conference championship making them equal with FSU on this criteria. .

You know damn well the ranking at the time also matters.

 

[ahoelsken]

The committee is tasked with selecting the four best teams, as perceived by the public. Vegas is tasked with quantifying public perception in a line. There are always upsets. And perceptions are often wrong. I personally thought Oregon would cover. Really impressive game by Washington.

As perceived by the public nationwide or SEC/Big 10 country?

Guarantee you the vast amount of people who are outside SEC country think FSU deserved #4.

 

[hawg1]

Because they're an SEC team and Florida State isn't.

That's what this comes down to. You and I both know that.

I’m confused. Do you think FSU has a better SoS than Bama. I’ve looked at numerous analytics today. I don’t find one that says that.

 

[Hank]

As perceived by the public nationwide or SEC/Big 10 country?

Guarantee you the vast amount of people who are outside SEC country think FSU deserved #4.

You might be right. Americans are dumb people. Look at who we elected as president 7 years ago.

 

[Buffs35]

It's not that Georgia is favored. It's that FSU is a 13-point underdog. Clearly, that shows they are not one of the top 4 teams at the moment.

Or it shows that Georgia is also a top four team. Or it shows nothing, or everything.

 

[hawg1]

You know damn well the ranking at the time also matters.

Yes It indeed matters. I agree with you. It helps determine Bama’s SIS . And by that criteria I find none than favor FSU over Bama.

 

[Duff Man]

Yes It indeed matters. I agree with you. It helps determine Bama’s SIS . And by that criteria I find none than favor FSU over Bama.

Hence the reason many think it is a self-fulfilling prophecy that the SEC will get in at least one team every year.

 

[ahoelsken]

I’m confused. Do you think FSU has a better SoS than Bama. I’ve looked at numerous analytics today. I don’t find one that says that.

I pay no attention whatsoever to analytics. I go by what my eyes tell me. FSU beating Florida on the road playing two backup QBs is more impressive than Alabama needing to pull one out of their asses at Auburn with Milroe. Yesterday's the same deal-Georgia being #1 was all about reputation. Their schedule was awful.

 

[Jens1893]

The committee is tasked with selecting the four best teams, as perceived by the public. Vegas is tasked with quantifying public perception in a line. There are always upsets. And perceptions are often wrong. I personally thought Oregon would cover. Really impressive game by Washington.

I would say it's tasked with quantifying public perception in a line that minimises its risk and liability as much as possible.

 

[Hank]

Or it shows that Georgia is also a top four team. Or it shows nothing, or everything.

I agree that Georgia is probably the best team. But they lost their playoff yesterday. There are only four spots. You can't justify Georgia under the way that things played out.

This isn't black and white. There is a bit of nuance in the selection process. But no one is going to convince me that FSU is a better team than Alabama at the moment.

And cherry picking a game or a play isn't persuasive either. That's football. Most of the greatest teams have had close calls.

 

[ahoelsken]

It's not that Georgia is favored. It's that FSU is a 13-point underdog. Clearly, that shows they are not one of the top 4 teams at the moment.

Again-Washington was a 10 point dog Friday night.

Using early bowl lines as evidence is a new one.....even for you.

 

[Hank]

I would say it's tasked with quantifying public perception in a line that minimises its risk and liability as much as possible.

Fine. Whatever. Nerd.

 

[Hank]

Again-Washington was a 10 point dog Friday night.

Using early bowl lines to justify arguments is a new one.....even for you.

You are like five minutes behind the conversation.

 

[ahoelsken]

You are like five minutes behind the conversation.

I brought that up again because you keep bringing up Georgia being a 2 TD favorite in the Orange Bowl.

That line really doesn't matter at all, and you're using it to justify FSU being left out. Just conveying how flawed your argument is.

 

[Duff Man]

I agree that Georgia is probably the best team. But they lost their playoff yesterday. There are only four spots. You can't justify Georgia under the way that things played out.

This isn't black and white. There is a bit of nuance in the selection process. But no one is going to convince me that FSU is a better team than Alabama at the moment.

And cherry picking a game or a play isn't persuasive either. That's football. Most of the greatest teams have had close calls.

Do you think Georgia is the best team based on 2023 alone? I think Michigan (for 2023 alone) has the better resume, and that was true even before yesterday's results.

 

[hawg1]

Hence the reason many think it is a self-fulfilling prophecy that the SEC will get in at least one team every year.

You lost me. What does the self fulfilling prophecy have to do with the various SoS rankings?

 

[Duff Man]

You lost me. What does the self fulfilling prophecy have to do with the various SoS rankings?

SEC teams get high rankings from the jump and are not punished as harshly throughout the season for losses or ugly wins.

 

[hawg1]

I pay no attention whatsoever to analytics. I go by what my eyes tell me. FSU beating Florida on the road playing two backup QBs is more impressive than Alabama needing to pull one out of their asses at Auburn with Milroe. Yesterday's the same deal-Georgia being #1 was all about reputation. Their schedule was awful.

OK. The Committee uses other criteria, including SOS.

 

[241Volcanos]

This post works if Auburn was a top ten team.

And CU dominated the Mich game but fumbled like 3 times running into end zone.