Not to mention we lost by an average of 30. We have had opportunities to win every game other than Oregon and of course last night.They were 1-11 in 2021, then 5-7 in 2022 and then look at them THIS year.
We were 1-11 in 2022, look to be 4-8 in 2023 and next year could easily be 8-4 (or 8-5/9-4 with a bowl game) if we are fortunate (especially with a BIG-12 schedule).
We lost by an average of 30 last year. If you want to be lazy and say they won 5 more than last year and we only won 3 more than last year, then sure.Assume a win over ASU and that's a bigger jump in the win column than CU had.
Add a bowl win and that's a 10 win year for them.
That's fair, but I need to see changes on staff.When you talk about the record, please don't forget about the context of strength of opponent.
This Colorado team would be bowling in Big10 west this year, or in 2021 Pac12.
The Pac12 this year is really good. And we are 1 dumb game away from 5 wins.
The first game against TCU not only distorted the national perception. It also distorted our own perception.
I don't know who still remember this, but after the CSU game, when reporter asked CP about the thing he learned so far in P5, he said one word:
We can justify not having patience with Karl or Macintyre, because they don't care about recruiting. CP is all about recruiting. We are excited about this hire, not because he is the GOAT CB, not because his rah-rah style, not because his media attention. It's because the only way to bring CU back to the old glorious days is to recruit better. And he is really the only one who can do that given the current situation CU is in.
He deserves our patience.
I would not compare Incarnate Word to JSU. They have a scheme and a system in place that works and they generally have a great OL and schematic WRs and RBs who fit that system. JSU scheme constantly was changing and at times, it didn't fit the personnel in year 2. As I said before the season, 2 would have an easier transition.
Ward had the best OL in the FCS and went to one of the worst pass blocking OLs in P5 with Wazzu. Shedeur OL as a freshman was a lot worse than what I've seen this year. It was literally the worst in the FCS and mid tier D2 at best. Last year OL was massively better led by Tyler Brown and Willis Patrick.
I knew he would have success on this level and he would do better than he did to a degree just due to the Football IQ gap between levels of his personnel. JSU had some serious talent but man, a lot of players was severely flawed. I don't see that as much here, the issue here is not that many guys are talented. It's frustrating to be honest.
after watching the afternoon pac 12 games, anyone in this conference can win. we were close against some teams that looked so good today. we need to find our identity and upgrade starters at a few positions and depth, while building the team cohesiveness. the coaches will gel and get better—either through experience or upgrades—and i think we can be an 8-10 win team next year. i believe
exactly! even if we only get a new OL coach and another year of cohesiveness/ consistency from the OL we will be better next year. CP is 95% likely to build the offensive identity and understand how to build for SS2.If we had a decent OL, we would be a bowl team this season for sure and that is something that can be addressed in the offseason. The Big 12 isn't going to be a cakewalk next year and if the OL is bad, it'll just be another repeat of this season.
i understand that this is possibly a call for inpatient rehab or at least a betterhelp subscriptionexactly! even if we only get a new OL coach and another year of cohesiveness/ consistency from the OL we will be better next year. CP is 95% likely to build the offensive identity and understand how to build for SS2.
if we get one interior OL portal smasher, the JSU guard Brown eligible, David Conner healthy, Van Wells as a veteran who calls the pro, better coaching, better scheme understanding (because the CP staff will have to understand the ways to deal with equal talent in P5), and the growth of our very young roster... we will be better.
on D we have Cormani after a year of weights and teaching. Lavontae as a veteran leader and a stud interior LB alongside him (portal guy probably). Trevor back at safety playing safe and tackling well alongside SS21 who will smash and take chances for big plays. Amari McNeil continues to progress and an NT who can absorb blocks and a stud edge.
Omarion Miller replaces Zay (love you Zay) and grows. Explosive frosh (hopefully Aaron Butler) for a change of pace. OC learns to use Edwards the way that Sean Lewis told us he'd use him before week one. Alton McCaskill is our primary back and gets 10-15 carries per game (some of those carries are 2 yards but when he hits it, he has chunk plays like he did as a freshman at Houston). A few extra lbs on Mikey and a young stud TE who can block and catch (maybe portal or maybe a high ceiling frosh).
That's a squad that will make the 12 team playoff.
adding it all up... 7 eligible or growing from our current roster and 6 new players (3 OL—1 recruit or portal, two eligible—, WR—growth, frosh—, RB—healthy, growth—, TE—recruit—, DL—growth, portal—, edge—recruit or portal—, LB— 2x portal—, CB—growth—, safety—growth). if we get more high talent transfers or recruits thats icing on the cake.
the variable is how many depth pieces we lose and how we replace them with culture fits who can be second stringers who want to fight for their place. if we get 7 "dawgs" we will be very good.
i reserve the right to edit and regret this post ... but it's how i see this roster. i think we are so close. and i never thought that about this team in the last 20 years
If you look at the current coaches in the CFP top 25, about half of them were .500 or worse in their first year at their current school. They nearly all took bad jobs. Some of the people above that mark are outliers who took over already well-run programs or hit on a transfer QB immediately. The others went to a blue blood and turned things around.
People jumping ship after one challenging season is really bizarre. It’s really tough to turn around a bad program.
It's just starting to get interesting for the man and the choices he has to make.I feel as though every heroes journey has a dark spell. Prime knew he was taking over a challenge, in retrospect it was looking too easy. This period may become a defining part of his narrative.
I agree that we should double-down to demonstrate our commitment.
I am talking about more recent history. Not overall history. UIW been an offensive juggernaut for the last 5 years. They have lost so many HCs in recent years to the FBS and just continue to produce regardless of the HC or QB. They lost Cam Ward and replaced him with Lindsey Scott and all he did was set damn near every record.Incarnate Word might have been D2 not that long ago but as a private Catholic school out of San Antonio, it's safe to assume that money for the football program isn't an issue. I don't know what their aspirations are like such as going up to FBS but looking at their Wikipedia page, it appears that they could pull it off within a decade or two. Plus being in the middle of all that talent in central Texas doesn't hurt Perhaps that is why Ward's former HC there is now the HC at Texas State in nearby San Marcos and it appears they are doing well.
As for JSU, there is the issue of overall funding for HBCUs and also the unfairness of how FCS playoff hosting is determined by money which puts HBCUs at a disadvantage which is why HBCUs do not bother with the FCS playoffs and have their own separate postseason. It's not difficult to see that going from HBCU to P5 is a bigger jump than FCS to P5. That is something that should benefit Shedeur when he eventually goes to the NFL.
And for the underlined, that is the frustration of the CU fanbase for quite sometime.
Could we all not agree that Colorado’s previous culture was Running the ball at altitude until the other team quit? Pounding people into submission.C'mon man this ain't a secret
Colorado Buffaloes coach Deion Sanders reveals that he doesn't care about culture ahead of the opener against the TCU Horned Frogs.thecomeback.com
Utah has a culture. Alabama has a culture. tOSU has a culture. Every good football team that also sustains success has a culture, CU has no culture and a HC who has said he doesn't care about culture and doesn't care if the team likes each other, that's bull****.
You know, that was our big strength early this season. We were the most well conditioned team. But then we started getting injured and our depth failed us. Look at UGA. The deepest team in the nation. Look how their depth does them. They get better as the season continues. Depth is so critical.Could we all not agree that Colorado’s previous culture was Running the ball at altitude until the other team quit? Pounding people into submission.
That Culture took a 20 year hiatus except in 2016, but with our stadium and weather and grittiness, that was something to strive for in my eyes. We should always be the best conditioned team.
I think this CU team would be top 3-4 in the 2017 pac-12after watching the afternoon pac 12 games, anyone in this conference can win. we were close against some teams that looked so good today. we need to find our identity and upgrade starters at a few positions and depth, while building the team cohesiveness. the coaches will gel and get better—either through experience or upgrades—and i think we can be an 8-10 win team next year. i believe
The school understands that he needs their support. Many “fans” on this site and others seem to forget that.Prime said last night that this has been the most difficult stretch of his life. Now, I’m not sure if that’s hyperbole since he’s gone through some seriously bad **** at times in his life, but he said it. I think that the university showing him appreciation for what he’s already done for this institution and unwavering support for him and his vision during his lowest would be the kind of decision that we look back on a few years from now and view as the catalyst that earned Primes trust and loyalty to CU and has CU in the national conversation more often than not.
I totally support Prime, 110%The school understands that he needs their support. Many “fans” on this site and others seem to forget that.
And that TCU squad was thought to be a solid top 25 team this year, down a bit from last year.
TranslationYou’ve become incomprehensible.
Most other posters just tell you to stop posting. I’m the only one who bothered to tell you that you make no sense.Translation
- Prime succeeding is the greatest thing ever for all of us
- I want it to happen
- I hope he makes all the correct player and coaching moves
- He operates in a way that is one foot out the door to the next challenge and his children are done next year.
- I will clear all posts with you first