That explains why my wife's so happy.
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Official CU vs Delaware Game Thread
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If Staub plays like he looked for the few possessions we saw him in, we should win this game handily imo. Im really looking forward to friday night.
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MCskid
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Me too but he also thinks Staub is the next coming of Joe Montana based on what 15 plays? Sure as hell hope your right on both counts #1pick!
He is the oracle around here. Accurately predicted the rise of Shedeur as was written in the ancient scrolls. Plus I really just want him to be right.
If that is the case, I would wait closer to game time, as that line is steaming in Houston's favor
Again, his full game against Utah two seasons ago was pretty solid. I said it before, I'll say it again - it didn't feel like a huge drop-off from Shedeur and that's coming from a huge Shedeur fan.
Staub is solid, but you all need to temper your expectations. Whomever starts, they are going to need to get some help from the booth to win or in the likely absence of that, play way over their head. Not ideal.
I would advise against that!
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Joe mention is more of a play on his style of play, footwork, size and similar arm talent and jersey number. Reality is, if he's maintain data with Noah Fifita, we hit the lottery for this specific season with Staub. Montana at ND showed a lot more than what Staub has so far in terms of clutch factor, will to win, and obviously, in terms of consistency but this is his 2nd overall start. My focus is just seeing him produce consistently. That's what high end P4 level QBs do.
This is Joe's stats at ND. My man didn't exactly light the world on fire even compared to his era.
Staub upside is specifically related to the WCO. It's build for players like him.
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Sandman
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On the plus side, I feel like the team is more disciplined than last year. Based on what I’m seeing, mistakes on the field this year seem to be more about new guys learning the system than guys playing outside the system in an attempt to make an eye-catching play.
I would like to see more plays from under center in 3rd or 4th and short. But it looks like more and more teams are playing from the shotgun in those situations.
I would like to see more plays from under center in 3rd or 4th and short. But it looks like more and more teams are playing from the shotgun in those situations.
Medford M.
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To be fair, Salter doesn’t look for anyone besides his first read.
Medford M.
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Staub is willing to throw the ball away, doesn’t take sacks, and is a little faster than Shedeur
Shedeur however, is elite accurate, extends plays as well as any “slow” QB I’ve ever seen, has a slightly better arm, and is tough as ****
They both have different games. Shedeur has more talent. Staub won’t win you games or lose them. Shedeur can win you games
Medford M.
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Salter has simply put been atrocious on throws 10 yards or more which make up 1/3rd of his attempts
He may also not understand the offense, and pretty sure I read that from Da Lama here in the Spring (or Fall camp) that he was having issues understanding the offense - if a QB can't throw with any reasonable expectation of completing a pass past 10 yards I don't know what the OC can really do.
PS is rancid hot dog water, but Salter isn't helping.
Juju has a better arm that Staub or Salter, Salter is a much more gifted runner that either Staub or Juju.
None of that matters if it isn't used in the right way.
Juju deserves all the attention he got (gets) as a potential QB but he is still a 17 year old who is supposed to be playing against high school secondaries and dating cheerleaders right now. He needs some time to learn and adjust and he is smart enough to know that. As long as he gets opportunities to keep working and advancing he will be fine and he will eventually be a plus QB but that isn't right now.
Salter has a strong arm, he is a faster, stronger, and shiftier runner. None of that matters if it isn't used correctly. Making the decisions on when to throw or when to run, who to throw it to and where to put it, seeing and adjusting to what the defense does in much more important than raw talent and Staub is far out in front in that department.
We saw one play where deep in Delaware territory Staub pulled it down and ran more than 10 yards for a first down. Salter on that same run using his running skills probably would have had at least 5 more yards but would he have made that run or would he have either thrown into coverage or hesitated letting the defense close down the hole Staub ran through.
I can see his teammates having confidence in Staub. They want a guy they can count on to make the right decisions. Buffs have enough players with the outstanding playmaking ability, especially at WR but also at RB that it is more important to have a QB who can take advantage of their talent than rely on his own.
So, all the bubble screens last year were because SS2 had to have the offense dumbed down? Bubble screens worked last year because you had exceptional players like Hunter and Wester getting the ball in space. We have different players this year, ones that might not be ideal for an outside screen game. Yet we keep going to it with ZERO success. It's not rocket science to look at our WR room and say, let's get a vertical passing game going, throw it downfield and let guys like Miller, Williams, Drelon and Brown go get it.
Going into the year, I thought Salter’s pocket elusiveness and his skill as a willing runner would freeze linebackers and safeties just a bit to open up the vertical passing game.
So far, Salter does not seem like a willing runner. In fact, he seemed to be a reluctant runner in the Georgia Tech game. In the first two series in the Delaware game, he seemed to use his legs a bit more, but still pulled up for a pass when an easy rushing first down was there to move the sticks. In both games, he did not present any downfield attack and was not very accurate on his intermediate throws. As a result, we saw a lot of bubble screens. I would’ve liked to see a few more series with him against Delaware.
If we cannot challenge teams downfield, then the running game and short passing game are going to face a lot of defenses stacking the box.
So far, Salter does not seem like a willing runner. In fact, he seemed to be a reluctant runner in the Georgia Tech game. In the first two series in the Delaware game, he seemed to use his legs a bit more, but still pulled up for a pass when an easy rushing first down was there to move the sticks. In both games, he did not present any downfield attack and was not very accurate on his intermediate throws. As a result, we saw a lot of bubble screens. I would’ve liked to see a few more series with him against Delaware.
If we cannot challenge teams downfield, then the running game and short passing game are going to face a lot of defenses stacking the box.
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"Salter has a strong arm." I keep seeing this on this board. It doesn't mean jack sh!t if you can't put the ball anywhere near where it needs to be.
Bubble screens work with motion involved. You stand there in the exact same formation and you tip that the same play is coming and the corners and safety rotate and jump the pattern and our receiver gets murdered.
How about motion or orbit motion or anything creative to mess with the coverage to open up that play.
Shurmur’s offenses are so 2D instead of 3D with manipulations. SS2 just flat made throws when the routes and protection sucked all around him.
Watching our offense last year and this year is nauseating
They need to dial up more go routes for him. If there's no safety help, you don't need to be all that accurate other than avoiding an under throw interception.
No, they don't. Salter cannot make accurate throws beyond 20 yards. I've said this since the beginning of camp.
Sandman
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On the plus side, I feel like the team is more disciplined than last year. Based on what I’m seeing, mistakes on the field this year seem to be more about new guys learning the system than guys playing outside the system in an attempt to make an eye-catching play.
I would like to see more plays from under center in 3rd or 4th and short. But it looks like more and more teams are playing from the shotgun in those situations.
I would like to see more plays from under center in 3rd or 4th and short. But it looks like more and more teams are playing from the shotgun in those situations.
Agree with you completely. Strongest arm in the world doesn't matter if the ball doesn't end up in your receivers hands. Part of this is physical and a bigger part comes from decision making, not only making the right decision but making that decision on time. I don't see Salter making those decisions.
Bringing in Salter at the time it was done made sense. He was effective enough at Liberty that multiple P4 schools believed he could be a winning QB for them. Turns out that wasn't correct.
At this point the choice has to be to go with Staub until Juju is ready. That may be later this year, might not be until next year. There is no future with Salter. Time to accept that you made a mistake and move on.
If he's playing yes but the right decison is not put that decision on him. Play the guy who has shown he will make the right decision and hit the right guy.
Shockingly he was actually really good at Liberty from 10+ yards, especially in 2023.
Why none of that is carrying over is beyond me.
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Shedeur got legit speed. His acceleration is bad. Bro got WNBA explosiveness
Hard so say Staub doesn't take sacks. His sack rate is pretty high. That said, his pocket awareness and pocket presence is excellent. You feel it as soon as he steps on the field. When it comes to Staub, prime knows how he's like in the clutch but if the two minute drill was any indication, he's promising.