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Official CU vs Delaware Game Thread

Also, really, really good seeing Makari Vickers in the game and making plays. He adds a big talent to that room that we all kind of wrote off due to his health issues in the offseason. I think they have about 6 CBs they feel comfortable with putting out there (DJ, Hodge, RJ, Parks, Vickers, Davis).
Well I certainly don’t feel comfortable with Hodge anymore. I thought I was overblowing it in my semi drunk state. Nope, dude was getting cooked over and over and over by a lesser athlete and on the same route.
 
I am not saying he's making the right reads or going through his progressions. I just said that when he's in the pocket, his accuracy been fine. It's the QB and passing issues I have which you stated
When things work exactly like they are supposed to he is okay. As soon as something breaks down then he is in trouble.

As I've said before the key to playing QB is what happens between the ears. It requires the right decisions but those decisions have to be automatic, they have to be at the moment because any delay and the opportunity is gone.

Salter looks like a guy who isn't confident in making the right decision. He is thinking do I run or throw? Go to the primary or the outlet? Is the safety in position or do I have a seam? You can't think about this stuff, it just has to happen.

Again Staub may not have the physical gifts but he is comfortable doing what he can do. Juju will get there. When the game gets into a guys head like it seems to with Salter I don't know what can be done. There are certain play calls that can be used that take the thinking away. The bubble screens fit this but then when the defense figures out they are coming then they don't work and the confidence goes further down.
 
It's terrible but I am convinced they will treat this like a preseason game. Wyoming just isn't good enough.
8:15pm on Family Weekend in front of a sold-out crowd, optimistic and hopeful for an easy win sounds like exactly the perfect environment for WYO’s backup QB to rush for 350yds and prove they are, in fact, good enough

My heart is hardened
 
His strategy though is to not lose the game. And that is an okay strategy when your defense is good. However, just like last year, we have problems on D and we are going to need to be putting up 40 points a game to win. We need an explosive fast moving offense with a playmaker that can execute when shurmer puts us at 3rd and long(which he will).

I saw enough of staub that I feel more confident with him then anyone else so far. I also feel confident that Juju will get there.

I doubt Prime is going to pull Shurmer just yet. He is going to give shurmer a chance with staub running the show for at least a couple of games. Dude was in for 3 possessions and we scored a TD in each. You have to give him a chance with the OC he has been learning under for most of his time on the team.
That’s not college football. Winning teams with strong defenses have bad offensive personnel, not vanilla play calling. College football should be about dominating and imposing strength against weaker opponents. If our offense’s talent can’t do that against Delaware then it’s a much bigger problem. I’d venture most of us think we do have that explosive talent on offense, it’s just bland play calling holding the squad back.

Shurmer fails as at college because his NFL instincts are uniquely different from college: First fewer games, there is no time build consistency through strategy. Second college has a more significant talent gap across all positions. It’s not the NFL where everyone is top class on the field. Teams have to take exploit the advantages not try to fool the opponent through a bunch of setup plays.

Shurmer needs to call plays with urgency, colleges isn’t a feel it out football game.
 
8:15pm on Family Weekend in front of a sold-out crowd, optimistic and hopeful for an easy win sounds like exactly the perfect environment for WYO’s backup QB to rush for 350yds and prove they are, in fact, good enough

My heart is hardened
This was exactly my first thought.

Also, let me share how horrible it is to have you back around, you ****ing idot. Nobody missed you.
 
Yep! I should have correctly stated, he hasn't missed anyone he's directly targeted accuracy wise within the pocket when he's stationary. He's missed plenty of reads and he primary an one read QB.

I don't remember him missing Atkins. What quarter was this? Was this against Tech?
It was Saturday against Delaware on the FG drive. I'll try to find the screen shot.
I agree. I think we may see both Staub and one of the other QBs against Houston. Likely Salter. Against Wyoming, we will probably see all 3.
We were a 3rd and 10 handoff from being stopped on Staub's first series, going 3 and out immediately after Delaware scored a TD and only having a 10-7 half time lead. I don't think Staub has solidified anything but he has earned the opportunity to get reps with the 1s in practice and start the game. I still think they are going to continue being patient with Salter and I'm guessing they would love for Juju to make some throws like Staub and assert himself.

Even though Houston is the first game of Big 12 play, I think they are going to treat it and Wyoming in a similar fashion to Delaware in that they are going to give all three a chance to prove they are QB1 for when Big 12 play gets tough the following week against BYU.
 
In my head-canon, almost everyone on AllBuffs is a middle-aged lesbian. Avoided Allbuffs tailgate to avoid the sad truth it’s all overweight middle aged white guys. Exceptions below:

CU3X is a 75+ year old guy with hobbies including potato salad and the American Legion

Hawg - cyclist (lol)

Bread - mid 30s guy, knee to ankle is the same diameter. Not fat, just mid 30s sports bettor / work-travel / stadium food & beer enjoyer physique

Manhattan - bald, salt/pepper beard, moms on the menu

Da Lama - moderately high BMI, yells at little league coaches, active youth sports parent, former coach of something we’ve never heard of

Duff - Ron Swanson type character

Nik - generic middle aged white guy who likes baseball cards & collectibles
I Guess If You Say So GIF
 
Well I certainly don’t feel comfortable with Hodge anymore. I thought I was overblowing it in my semi drunk state. Nope, dude was getting cooked over and over and over by a lesser athlete and on the same route.
Hodge looked unplayable. Came out of left field for me, and that is not a good sign for this year
 
"Salter has a strong arm." I keep seeing this on this board. It doesn't mean jack sh!t if you can't put the ball anywhere near where it needs to be.
Bobby Douglass had a strong arm
Jeff George had a strong arm

Lots of guys have absolute cannons, but they can’t hit water if they fell out of a boat…

Who was the kid from Tennessee we had in ‘22?

Strong arm…couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn
 
@#1 pick … my bad the screenshot was from Tech. There was another one on Saturday though.
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This is exactly the play I was referring to, and the fundamentals are even worse than I recalled. Imagine if he was stepping up into the pocket as he should. Hard to think he wouldn’t have seen DM right there—what?—12 yards away for an easy TD.

That’s just awful, all around. Ball should have already been out
 
well, at least it is a short week and an away game. like the shameless homer I that I am, I am going to take the points and the over. I have no ****ing clue what we will see. if I post a picture of myself dressed as bluto in a toga and pouring a jar of mustard on myself, just consider it the inevitable place I was headed.
 
Something to note about Staubs only start in 2023 as a true frosh, yes we lost the game and it was close, but it was against a very strong utah defensive unit that year. They were easily a top 20, probably higher. Houstons defense is no where near what he played against in that game. And we had one of the worst offensive lines that year.
 
Salter been pretty consistent for us. We get the same results each week and I am not expecting much difference. If Staub is consistent, we should be ecstatic
 
Something to note about Staubs only start in 2023 as a true frosh, yes we lost the game and it was close, but it was against a very strong utah defensive unit that year. They were easily a top 20, probably higher. Houstons defense is no where near what he played against in that game. And we had one of the worst offensive lines that year.
And,
1) game was on the road. Always loud in that stadium
2) one CU drive had 2 plays that were TDs blown by the refs
To me, Staub has lower ceiling but higher floor. I think we beat GTech if he was starter. That’s not so much praise for him but the reality of poor play by Salter. Team was noticeable more pumped/energetic when he came in. Again, he’s not a superstar but maybe the team sees that he makes better reads and calls. Juju still shows lots of potential but is very young and it shows
 
Love the analysis @#1 pick , you're invested for sure.

To add to the levity of player comps, Staub reminds me of Chase Daniel (I hated that dude at Mizzou) but he could fit it in there and seemed to play smart effecient ball. Plus he was built like the rest of us lesbians, could fill out the corduroy if you know what I mean; similar to Staub.
Chase was a beast in college. Even better than Noah. While I've seen more impressive play in one game than I've seen in Chase college and pro career from Staub, if we can get anywhere close to Daniels level consistency, that would be insane. Not expecting it, especially in this scheme. I'll settle for Noah.
 
I really like the fact he's a RS Sophomore. What would happen if he turns out to be a great QB?

How many maybe starting QBs share their number (Mata)?
If that’s the case, then it’ll be a Kansas State/Will Howard situation where a bigger school will grab him in January while we are committed to Juju
 
And,
1) game was on the road. Always loud in that stadium
2) one CU drive had 2 plays that were TDs blown by the refs
To me, Staub has lower ceiling but higher floor. I think we beat GTech if he was starter. That’s not so much praise for him but the reality of poor play by Salter. Team was noticeable more pumped/energetic when he came in. Again, he’s not a superstar but maybe the team sees that he makes better reads and calls. Juju still shows lots of potential but is very young and it shows
I don't need a ceiling that is sky high, don't need a star. Need a QB who will facilitate so the guys we have who do have the high ceilings can do their thing.

Our WR room is one of the most explosive in the country but with Salter then might as well be a bunch of walk-ons. Our RBs are better than they have been including an ability to do some things in the passing game.

Just need somebody to make the right decisions and get the ball to the guys who can do something with it.
 
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